914cup 2005

a virtual autocross series....

914ers are encouraged to participate in their respective autocross series, and report those times back here for a virtual, nationwide 914 autocross competition!


How it works:

Class your car. Enter an autocross in your area. Compete. Report back the event's TTOD, your fastest time of the day, your class, and some other minor bits of information. Points for your submitted times will be generated and entered into an ongoing series for 2005. At the end of the 2005 season, the best of each competitor's SIX (6) events will be tallied.

How do I sign up?

go here: http://www.stanford.edu/~neb/914cupmain.htm


Rules:

-Open to 914's only.

-4cyl, 6cyl, SBC conversions, rotary conversions, EV's, tube frame cars, and other customs are welcome to compete. Simply, the car MUST have started its life out as a 914, and retain some spirit of a 914.

-Cars will be divided by points into four (4) classes. Competitors are responsible for classing their cars themselves, and for policing each other if necessary.

-see below for classing information

-Eligible AX's

-Only submissions from an official, timed AX event run by a sanctioning body such as PCA or SCCA is eligible.
-In order to preserve competition, only AX events with a minimum of 5 total competitors will be eligible.
-if 5-10 total competitors, event points will be handicapped by .8
-if 11-15 total competitors, event points will be handicapped by .9
-if 16-20 total competitors, event points will be handicapped by .95
-if 21+ competitors, event points will not be handicapped.

-Competitors may enter and submit times from any number of AX events they wish.
-AX "training schools" are not eligible.
-If a competitor competes in multiple sanctioning bodies (e.g. PCA and SCCA), s/he must account for two seperate entries in 914cup; one for each sanctioning body. In this case, the competitor may submit his/her best series results for end-of-the-year 914cup standings.
-Only events held in 2005 will be eligible.

Eligible Submissions:

-Definition: TTOD here refers to the fastest officially-recognized run by any production-based car. This specifically excludes open-wheeled cars such as SCCA's A-mod or F-SAE classes, as well as (very rarely) some PCA Exhibition-classed cars on a case-by-case basis.

-Each competitor must submit their personal fastest official run of the day, as well as the official TTOD for the event. A score will be generated based on a ratio of the TTOD to the competitor's best time multiplied by 100.

e.g. if the TTOD is 37.286, and the competitor's best time is 41.615, then the competitor will earn 90 points for that event.
(37.286/41.615 = .895975009 * 100 = 89.59 rounded to nearest integer
= 90)

-This score will then be modified if necessary based upon total number of
entries (see above, "Eligible AX's")

-TTOD will always be 100 points, except AX events with less than 21
competitors, where TTOD will be either 95, 90, or 80 points (see above,
"Eligible AX's")

-All submissions shall be Raw Times -- not indexed (i.e. do not submit your PAX results)
-Fun runs are not accepted for a competitors best time
-All submitted times must be officially recognized by the organization that you run with.
-i.e., if a competitor disputes a time with his/her sanctioning body, s/he must nonetheless report the officially recognized time. If such a dispute is resolved in the competitor's favor, s/he may have his/ her score adjusted accordingly.


Score Keeping

-Scores will be tallied continuously throughout the autocross season.
-Scores will be reported in integer form. Only in the event of a season-tie will scores be calculated to the
n-th decimal necessary to determine a winner.


CLASSES:


Competitors must class themselves by adding the following points in tally according to their 914. Competitors may switch classes mid-season, but end of the year standings will be tallied for the highest class that competitor raced in.

Backdating (e.g. exhaust, bumpers, doors) is free.

Stock = 0-99 points
Improved = 100-249 points
Modified = 250-349 points
Super-Modified = 350+ points


Tires

Width:
205-width and under = + 0
tirewidth (for 305 and less): (2xx – 205) = penalty points
greater than 305 width = 100 penalty points.

i.e. :
205 or less = +0
215 = +10
225 = +20
235 = +30
etc....
305 or greater = +100

Competitors running slicks in non-standard tire size must convert sizes and add points accordingly.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/tireinfo4calc.html

Type:
DOT Street Tires with treadwear rating over 100* = +0
*exception: Falken Azenis = +50
DOT r-compound tires = +100
non DOT tires (slicks) = +150*
*Competitors running slicks must run in S-Mod,
at a minimum of 350 total points. If the competitor's
total class-points do not add up to at least 350 points,
they must nonetheless report 350 total points for all
purposes of classing.

Brakes

free all classes

Suspension

non-stock rear springs/torsion bars +30
fine-adjustable coil spring platforms +10
(e.g. threaded collars or sim.)
non-stock sway bar +30


Interior

Interior has been substantially gutted and lightened = +20
Race Seat = +10

Body/Frame

car has been lightened by replacing body panels or bumpers with non-stock parts (fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc.) = +10 per body panel

car has been stiffened by reinforcing suspension points (extra bracing, cage tied into suspension points, etc.) = +20

inner or outer long reinforcement: +5

for cars that have been lightened/stiffened beyond the above: please add points as you deem appropriate.


Transmission

non-stock gearing = +15
LSD = +40

Engine/Flywheel/Exhaust/Induction/etc.

Displacement (4cyl)

1.7 - 1.8 = +0
1.9 = +15
2.0 = +30
2.01-2.2 = +45
2.21-2.4 = +60
>2.4 = +75

Displacement (6 cyl)

2.0 = +45
2.01-2.3 = +60
2.31-2.6 = +75
2.7-2.9 = +90
3.0 = +100
3.2 = +125
3.6+ = +150


Induction (ALL CARS with internal combustion engines):*

Stock FI = +0
Stock or non-improved Carbs = +0

Non-stock FI = +15
Non-stock or improved Carbs* = +15
(this includes all dual carbs on T4's)

*for conversions such as SBC/rotary: if the induction
is an improvement over a common version of your
motor (such as a big carb on a V8), add points as
as directed.


Cams (ALL CARS with internal combustion engines):*

stock = +0
non-stock = +20

*for conversions such as SBC/rotary: if the camshaft
is an improvement over a common version of your
motor, add points as directed.

Ignition:

free all classes

Other:

V8 conversion = +70*
*Add additional points for induction and cam
(etc.) if necessary. Exhaust, including
headers, is free.
Rotary/Suby conversion = +75*
*Add additional points for induction, cam and
turbo (etc.) if necessary. Exhaust, including
headers, is free.
Electric conversion = add "Engine" points as you deem appropriate
Other conversion = add points as you deem appropriate


Flywheel (All Cars):

stock = +0
lightened = +5

Forced Induction (All Cars):

car is turbo- or super- charged: +40

Exhaust (All 4cyl and 6cyl):

mufflers: free all classes
headers: +15

This post has been edited by nebreitling: Mar 28 2005, 12:32 AM

Im in.

I think that an LSD is/was a stock option, so i dont think that it should be penialized.

Rich

im in! but we'll see what my initial number is when the car is running.

Sounds good to me, just need a working car.

Well you know I'm in.
Classing my car is going to be interesting.
BTW Nathan you are doing an excellent job putting this together. I was thinking something simpler but your stuff all makes sense to keep it fair.
Only 6 events???? I plan on at least 15 But some think I am nuts for cars. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

awesome idea! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
cant wait to see where peoples' cars are starting at with penalty points and who comes out on top.

Ok, I'm in. Goal is not to be last.

Well I'm in. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

Im in with an exception -

the PCA AX i attend usually has 10-15 cars. great fun... most are beginners. why should that have any affect on my eligibility to play in the 914 cup?
if this happens..you basically nailed 10+ of the 914 club members within 20 miles of me. NOT COOL. 10 active people out of the "cup".

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

also ....

QUOTE

Non-stock Carbs = +15

do i add this to a webr equipped car? AFAIK the only carbed 4 banger was the euro 1.8...
either way im still in improved

I'm in, of course.

265 points (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) Modified...

Great job. this will be fun. Another reason to log on. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)

KT

10-15 in your class or 10-15 total at the event? I think Nathan means total at the event, which gives the TTOD some meaning.

If you really only have 10-15 people showing up TOTAL at your events, that's quite remarkable. Do they not AX in SoCal?

i'm in ...

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy

btw. once this is settle down, we should print out some flyers that each of us can bring to their first AX's of the season to hand out to outher 914 guys that are not on the board.

yes, yes, i know, hard to believe, but we have quite a few guys around here that are not part of the club ...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) Andy

This needs to be nailed, don't you think?
All the clubbers need a chance to get in on this one.

A/X is really fun and this adds a great spin on it.

KT

I'm in ..with stock 1.8 and Falkens I should do ok based on those points. Looks like 35 for me.

I'm tempted, might just be in.
I wonder if this would get me out to more than one AX a year? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
I know there are only few of us EVs , but if we do well we'll need to look into more of a point penalty for Electrics.
My 914 may weigh 3000 lbs, but it puts out over 200 HP over a pretty wide powerband with no shifting. That could be a threat if I ever put some real tires on it or adjusted the alignment. ..... Oh yeah, I'd need to learn to drive better too! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
Anyway, a zero hit would not be fair to others for a machine that does 0-60 in 5 seconds. Maybe like a point for every KW measured over 60 for the EVs. That would put my motor at about 100 points for a total of 190 points.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) I'm in, some one has to bring up the rear.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Geez only 40 points, no wonder I'm so f'in slow....

Sounds good. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/MDB2.gif) I'm in.

I'm in @480