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914 Price Trends, Going Up? |
swooshdave |
Jul 22 2014, 11:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 11-June 14 From: Portland Member No.: 17,475 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I"m just looking at the Hagarty estimates to start. I've heard many people say that the prices of 914s are going up. The Hagarty charts seem to disagree and say that the prices are flat for the last 8 years except for a bump around 2010.
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/hvt/...eport?vc=879762 I don't think they have enough comparables to track the 914s accurately enough. Is there a better source for pricing trends aside from antidotal evidence? I used the 1973 2.0 as sample as that seems to be held as one of the more desirable of the fours. |
Hank914 |
Jul 22 2014, 11:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 389 Joined: 7-April 14 From: CA and OR Member No.: 17,215 Region Association: None |
I"m just looking at the Hagarty estimates to start. I've heard many people say that the prices of 914s are going up. The Hagarty charts seem to disagree and say that the prices are flat for the last 8 years except for a bump around 2010. http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/hvt/...eport?vc=879762 I don't think they have enough comparables to track the 914s accurately enough. Is there a better source for pricing trends aside from antidotal evidence? I used the 1973 2.0 as sample as that seems to be held as one of the more desirable of the fours. Thanks for the link. I'm excited to learn ... "Notes/Buzz+10% for factory a/c. +10% for 5-spd." ... that I get a +10% for my 5speed tranny! No factory air for me, but on a serious note, I learned recently that my in-glass rear window defroster was only ordered on 5-10% of cars. That's gotta be worth an extra $25 or $30 bucks, eh? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) |
Big Len |
Jul 23 2014, 08:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
It used to rare to see a 914 over $15K, now there are many. Look at the 6 prices. I think the increasing popularity of a/cooled models is raising everyone's value.
Just this week, I renewed with Hagerty and raised the value a couple of thousand. |
jfort |
Jul 23 2014, 12:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,135 Joined: 5-May 03 From: Findlay, OH Member No.: 652 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I agree, Len
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StratPlayer |
Jul 23 2014, 01:55 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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green914 |
Jul 23 2014, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,467 Joined: 29-March 11 From: Sacramento, California Member No.: 12,874 Region Association: Northern California |
Good info! Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dave_Darling |
Jul 23 2014, 06:18 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
My gut feeling is that, at least for "driver" cars, they over-state the value in their earlier estimates, and under-value the cars currently. But that's not based on real data, so...
--DD |
Hine62 |
Jul 23 2014, 06:30 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 4-October 12 From: Binghamton, NY Member No.: 15,000 Region Association: None |
I was happy until I looked up 1.8L values! If I can get my car to condition 3, then it might be a wash... So the question is more HP or a better looking car. I'll take the HP (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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swooshdave |
Jul 23 2014, 10:51 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 11-June 14 From: Portland Member No.: 17,475 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I assume the "rising prices" that I've seen here must refer to people who bought longer than 8 years ago? Or are they talking about the increases in the rarer models such as the -6?
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deputydog95 |
Jul 24 2014, 06:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 10-July 14 From: Bradenton, Florida Member No.: 17,612 Region Association: South East States |
I think the prices right now are a bit over inflated at least on most of them. As someone who's "trying" to find a decent car, I'm seeing a lot of over priced unoriginal project cars being sold for silly money. Or at least being offered. None of it is moving as I've been seeing the same cars for sale over the past 6 months. So while some of these people are trying to ride the wave and cash in, I don't think they're being realistic with their pricing.
I looked at a "rust free" 1.8 in Sarasota for $16k. A) It was very rusty B) It was a 1.8 C) It had a lot of unoriginal parts to include wing, splitter, and wheels. That's just one example. Then again, it's a win win for them. It sells for more than it should, win. It doesn't sell, they get to keep their car, win. Can't blame them for trying (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
deputydog95 |
Jul 24 2014, 06:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 10-July 14 From: Bradenton, Florida Member No.: 17,612 Region Association: South East States |
Case in point... Unless I'm missing something here, can anyone explain the asking price on this???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-2-Door...=US_Cars_Trucks |
914werke |
Jul 24 2014, 07:02 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,056 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
pretty simple: its a dealer, its ebay, and its an asking price.
Hes already got 5 offers. Looks like an pretty nice fairly original car. No mention of a COA which Id expect for this level of car & price. |
Big Len |
Jul 24 2014, 07:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Case in point... Unless I'm missing something here, can anyone explain the asking price on this??? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-2-Door...=US_Cars_Trucks We all know there's usually a vast difference between the ask price and the sale price, but the ask here does represent something and that is increasing values. In this case, the seller is fishing for an uninformed buyer who may bite. Or perhaps has inflated the price in order to have room during negotiations. You must try to keep track of the final sale price as well as the ask.The more you see, the more you become an informed, savvy buyer (or seller) Good luck. |
Hine62 |
Jul 24 2014, 09:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 4-October 12 From: Binghamton, NY Member No.: 15,000 Region Association: None |
QUOTE In this case, the seller is fishing for an uninformed buyer who may bite. Yep, that would be my guess. I've been looking for a 911 for a while in the 2000 - 2005 range, those prices are also inflated compared to the mileage on them. |
dcheek |
Jul 24 2014, 11:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
One thing to consider is that the inflated prices are just that- inflation. They're not worth more, it's the fact that the dollar buys less as time goes on.
Dave |
swooshdave |
Jul 24 2014, 11:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: 11-June 14 From: Portland Member No.: 17,475 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I can see why Hagarty tracks auction prices and not classifieds as you know the selling price. Otherwise it's just a crapshoot.
I don't think inflation has much of an impact on car values. |
Big Len |
Jul 24 2014, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 16-July 13 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Member No.: 16,126 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Go to - Ebay Motors
Look to the right of the search button for Advanced Search, click that. On the advanced search page, type Porsche 914 and scroll down slightly to Sold Listings. Click that and hit search. It will bring up a 6 month history. |
halmil |
Jul 24 2014, 04:04 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 20-June 12 From: norcal Member No.: 14,585 Region Association: None |
I was reading in the newspaper that values for lots of different hard assets have all risen to historic levels. These seem like a better investment that the returns from bonds or stocks. Until the bubble bursts that is!
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Porschef |
Jul 24 2014, 06:25 PM
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How you doin' Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 7-September 10 From: LawnGuyland Member No.: 12,152 Region Association: North East States |
What do you expect, the car's out in Southhampton. No doubt trying to be sold to some uhh, unsavvy buyer influenced by the marque's name, as Len points out.
HEY!! It's a PORSCHE! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) What's one of them fancy 918's going for, sumthin north of 900g's by the time yer out the door? No doubt there's gonna be at least one of em toolin around the Hamptons eventually. And it'll prolly be silver... Am I making a connection? It's a nice looking car. Silver makes a 914 look, shall I say, less like a 70's relic. Someone may just bite and make a solid offer. Or not... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
rgalla9146 |
Jul 24 2014, 08:31 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,551 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Southhampton, uninformed, moneyed, summer.
Hey! Ya never know. ( Don't tell the buyer there was a bigger engine available) |
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