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StratPlayer |
Jan 28 2003, 09:46 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Heres a shot of my oil cooler, its in a 76 2.0 efi. had this installed when I had the engine rebuilt last year,, I now have some alumn. bar installed to protect the cooler and a space saving spare.
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cha914 |
Jan 28 2003, 11:18 PM
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MUSR 8 - 5lug conversion done wed - drive 500miles thrus Group: Members Posts: 739 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 63 |
any pics of how you ran the lines in the fender well? I am planning on running mine under the gas tank and along the passenger side rocker where the ac line used to be...
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Brad |
Jan 29 2003, 02:52 AM
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Very close to the way I run them (when I run them inside the tub) I have to agree about running the lines in the rockers and over the cross bar. Only about 8 inches of my braided lines are exposed in this style of mounting.
B |
Jan 29 2003, 12:43 PM
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I'm still deciding where to put my cooler. under engine bay or up front?
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Brad Roberts |
Jan 29 2003, 12:48 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Keep it away from the engine bay (heat soak) The engine grill idea is great for people who rarely see lap times under 2:20 at THILL in a 2.0 914 (record in a injected 2.0 914 is 2:14) You have to have clean air flowing across them to work (like this guy did and like we do)
Mount it up front. B |
Jan 29 2003, 05:54 PM
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yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm doing it up front. Hmm, now to find some $ for the braided lines.
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MJHanna |
Jan 30 2003, 07:53 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
AeroQuip makes a Blue hose (also black) that cares the same properties as the braided line at a significant reduction in price. Also it is easier to install the connections than the steel braided lines. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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JmuRiz |
Jan 30 2003, 09:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,425 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Has anyone tried putting a cooler in the trunk...say on a track car? On a street car it might make the targa-storage disappear. Just a zany idea. Or maybe aft the rear wheel...w/ a vent a-la 996 turbo (w/ it's intercoolers).
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MJHanna |
Jan 30 2003, 12:29 PM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
I’ve seen it done in both locations, still a lot of heat back there, plus running lines to the front help with the heat transfer.
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Dave_Darling |
Jan 30 2003, 01:18 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
MikeZ's "Rocket" had a cooler inside the rear trunk. Or at least, in a cutout of the rear trunk floor. He had a fan over it with a grille over that, so we always teased him about having a BBQ in the back of his 914. I recall that the air came in from the engine bay through the two holes where the targa top latches went (he popped out the plastic caps that go there) and went out through the hole in the trunk floor.
--DD |
J P Stein |
Jan 30 2003, 02:49 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I put mine in the nose.
I know of several guys that put it in the rear trunk, but if you're really serious about heat dissipation...... Either way, GOOD thremostat is needed if you have a 6. I don't think (but don't really know ) if the t-4 oil pump puts out enuff pressure to hurt a good cooler....the 6er does, fer sure. Avoid tight bends in the line....and fittings. Good fittings...none of them hose clamp jobbies. Bring money. Summit and Racers Wholesale (warehouse?) have the bestest prices for lines & fittings. |
kdfoust |
Jan 30 2003, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 694 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Riverside Member No.: 71 Region Association: Southern California |
Those engine bay coolers make no sense whatsoever to me. It's like, what, 150-180 deg in there?
I saw a neat intercooler setup at GCF. The guy had mounted the intercooler at the rear of the rear trunk bay right inside of where the PORSCHE reflector would go. The space between the taillights was done up with a expanded metal mesh. He then fabbed a new trunk lid that had a recess to allow air flow through the intercooler (which way the air would flow on this setup I've got no idea - but maybe "backwards"). The whole setup looked pretty stealth until you got right up close to the car. I'll see if I can find some digipix of this setup when I get home. Have fun, Kevin |
drew365 |
Jan 30 2003, 07:22 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
Mine is mounted under the car, between the trans and rear bumper with an auxilary fan and a small aluminum shroud to funnel air through it. My engine is very modified and I've never gotten it over about 270o on the track. I doubt that I'll ever bother to move it up front unless I move up to a 3.2 in the distant future. Real distant I hope.
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bernbomb914 |
Jan 30 2003, 08:03 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
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drew365 |
Jan 30 2003, 08:16 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
QUOTE Drew do you have any pics of your installation? I don't have pics but I can probably take some and post them Saturday. |
74GoKart |
Jan 30 2003, 10:48 PM
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Hotlanta Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 2-January 03 From: ATL, GA Member No.: 76 Region Association: South East States |
What about Rich Johnson's setup? Seems that if it works in TX it should be okay everywhere else.
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Dave_Darling |
Jan 30 2003, 10:51 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,983 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The German Auto Fest car--I drove in to the event and passed him on the freeway.
We only have the one pic of this car on our website-- http://www.pelicanparts.com/swapmeet_pics/...ML/Page-205.htm I know I took a couple of pics of it, but my photos didn't make it onto the web site. Bummer... --DD |
campbellcj |
Jan 31 2003, 12:22 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,544 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
My ravenna car had a huge Earls cooler under the rear trunk floor (like the pic above, except on the right side and farther back away from the exhaust).
It made a very noticable difference, but not enough for serious track use. Without it though, that car would essentially just keep zooming up, to 300F if you'd let it. I just ran Mobil1 in the car and prayed to the 914 gots when the temps inched over 250. At 260-270 I would immediately pull off track and go for a cool-off drive. I suspect it might help if the cooler were tilted downwards so that it caught a bit more airflow. Or even completely "vertical" if it was one of those wide & short coolers. Without an external cooler, my current car (2.4/four) runs about 230F max (normally more like 210-220) in street driving and interestingly stays a tad cooler than the previous car on the track. But it still gets way too f'ing hot...so it is about to get a mondo front cooler in a week or two. I will need to be able to run 30 minutes at near-redline in 100-115F ambient temps. |
J P Stein |
Jan 31 2003, 12:25 AM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
OK, what's the ideal temp for a 6er?
What's too hot? |
Brad Roberts |
Jan 31 2003, 12:40 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
We have beat the piss out of our 914/6 with a pumped 3.0 over the last 2 years (without a external cooler) and it ran 230 on hot days.
I spoke with a 911 engine dyno guru today who said they noticed large drops in HP with anything over 215deg. Bruce Anderson backed this up with what Woods has found on his dyno. I can understand the concern for a full blown race car, but a street car wouldnt notice a 5-8hp decrease in HP after sitting in traffic. I will make an effort to keep our race cars around 195. Street cars are safe to 230 with synthetic (in my book) B |
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