Going Inside The Long, once again... |
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Going Inside The Long, once again... |
McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:27 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I hacked into my parts car to gain an even clearer view of the world inside the long. I'm here to share my pictures. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
Here's how I hacked in. I wouldn't recommend this tactic on a real project, but I just wanted to get inside without losing the shape and perspective of things. I just took a hack saw and cut into the top of the long and then drilled out all the spot welds along the top. Attached image(s) |
McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Opened up. You would never be able to get the metal straight again on a real project once you bent it like this.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's the paper, plastic, fiberglass, and aluminum tubes connecting the rear heater tubes to the front heater tubes. These are supposed to muffle the sound so when the heater is on it doesn't get noisier in the car. Effectiveness is questionable, IMHO.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's the long without the tube. Notice how little rust there is. What little rust there is in the bottom was caused by the hell hole letting water in. This is proof that a well maintained car will not rust. In other words, breaking into your longs to paint/POR-15/zinc coat the surface is not necessary.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:37 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's a detail shot of the rear of the opening. Showing the rear heater tube, seat belt reinforcement, and 1 of three C straps that hold the tube in place. The C strap in this picture was bent taking the tube out.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:39 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's the front of the opening showing the front heater tube, and the tube stabilizer bracket (there's one in the last picture too). Also shows another C strap, bent as well.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
View towards the rear of the long. Here you can see the bottom of the C strap which is not deformed. The top should be a mirror image.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:42 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's the view towards the front of the long.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's a view to the rear, past the heater tube. This is the area directly below the hell hole. You can see the rust damage caused by neglect.
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Another detail show of the seat belt reinforcements. Notice how close the plate comes to the C strap. Remember this for later. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:51 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Here's one possible way to remove the tube in preparation for acid dipping. Cut along the Sharpie line. Near the seat belt hole you have to cut close to the C strap mounting pad. Remember the plate from the last picture? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) If you cut along this line and drill out the spot welds you'll remove the tube and clamps as one unit. Make sure to cut carefully and not very deep because there is lots of stuff just behind the metal.
Do not cut on your long without reinforcing the body to avoid bending your car in half. Attached image(s) |
McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 08:53 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Finally, a shot down the paper tube, showing the aluminum lining. There is fiberglass in between the paper outside and the aluminum lining.
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lapuwali |
Mar 29 2005, 09:00 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Thanks, excellent, Mark. Thanks much.
Classic thread! |
CptTripps |
Mar 29 2005, 10:31 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
What a great perspective on how things look in there.
Fantastic stuff...thanks to you, and your poor parts car for sacrificing it's long. (Which looks better than anything in the midwest BTW) |
McMark |
Mar 29 2005, 11:52 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Yeah, I had some remorse. But the rest of the car is so trashed it's only good for a race car body. So oh well. It's headed for the scrap heap.
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Hammy |
Mar 30 2005, 12:41 AM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
Why parts? From those pics, that car looks in better condition than mine (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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redshift |
Mar 30 2005, 01:03 AM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Thanks Mark, that was a fun read, and looksee..
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McMark |
Mar 30 2005, 01:24 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
How about now? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Attached image(s) |
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dralf |
Mar 30 2005, 07:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Dayton, Oh Member No.: 1,597 |
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What a wonderful Autopsy ! Would love to have a teener like that on which to perform exploritoy surgery ( practice my sawall and welding work ). Tanks |
Teknon |
Mar 30 2005, 08:23 AM
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The more I learn the dumber i think I am Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 10-August 04 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 2,505 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Uninsulated!!!! Yuck. I'm gunna drill some holes and fill it with foam. Need all the heat I can get. Cool pics. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)
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