914-6 Engine Height at the front of the motor?, Need help with a measurement |
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914-6 Engine Height at the front of the motor?, Need help with a measurement |
jkb944t |
Aug 20 2016, 06:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front.
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 20 2016, 11:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,570 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front. Jeff B Stock mount, real 6 Dayton graduate. Attached thumbnail(s) |
wndsnd |
Aug 20 2016, 08:37 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
Well my car is a conversion, so my answer is not what you are looking for, but it interested me after seeing your post so I measured it.
I have a modified custom mount and we actually played with it in a couple of variations. First I was concerned about shift rod clearance. Secondly I was concerned with sheet metal fitment. We finally settled on matching the sheet metal to the engine bay gasketing and shelf, which gave me plenty of clearance on the shift rod. After all was said and done, measuring like you did in your photo, we are basically dead on together... My measurement matches yours as shown. FWIW... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
porschetub |
Aug 20 2016, 09:24 PM
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Well my car is a conversion, so my answer is not what you are looking for, but it interested me after seeing your post so I measured it. I have a modified custom mount and we actually played with it in a couple of variations. First I was concerned about shift rod clearance. Secondly I was concerned with sheet metal fitment. We finally settled on matching the sheet metal to the engine bay gasketing and shelf, which gave me plenty of clearance on the shift rod. After all was said and done, measuring like you did in your photo, we are basically dead on together... My measurement matches yours as shown. FWIW... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Thanks for reply John I will check mine when the rain stops and hopefully help the OP also,think my height is correct but PO has cocked up my engine carrier mount and the engine is too far rearwards. Measurements @ the gearbox mounts shows around 15mm out ,ticks me off as he said the mount was a exact copy of an original -6 mount he had the use of for a pattern. |
gandalf_025 |
Aug 21 2016, 06:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,457 Joined: 25-June 09 From: North Shore, Massachusetts Member No.: 10,509 Region Association: North East States |
I need to know what the correct height of a 914-6 motor is at the front of the motor as shown in the picture. I think my motor is too high at the front. Jeff B As John mentioned, if the engine tin lines up with the engine shelf and gasket on the body, it should be fine. If it is a factory 6 with a factory mount, there isn't much play to be had. What doesn't fit that makes you think it is too high ?? |
jkb944t |
Aug 22 2016, 06:05 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
Mine is a -6 conversion and I made the engine mount myself to match drawings that I generated from a real -6. Unfortunately I misplaced the drawings of the mount and I don't have the measurements anymore.
The concern is that I don't think the front section of the engine tin matches the seal as well as I would like. I thought my engine might be too high at the front. It sounds like I might be OK but if anyone has more measurements I am open to listening to suggestions on the correct height. Thanks! Jeff B |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 22 2016, 06:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,570 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Mine is a -6 conversion and I made the engine mount myself to match drawings that I generated from a real -6. Unfortunately I misplaced the drawings of the mount and I don't have the measurements anymore. The concern is that I don't think the front section of the engine tin matches the seal as well as I would like. I thought my engine might be too high at the front. It sounds like I might be OK but if anyone has more measurements I am open to listening to suggestions on the correct height. Thanks! Jeff B Hi Jeff The picture that I posted illustrates that there is less than a 1/4" difference in height between your engine and my original 6 engine. Other measurements ? ......... I think you'll be OK. Rory |
6freak |
Aug 23 2016, 08:13 AM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
trans mounted proper ??
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mb911 |
Aug 23 2016, 04:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,902 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Interesting info here. I remember my last conversion the engine did sit exactly how I wanted it.. I am now actually considering putting my stock 914-6 mount in without the engine being installed. Crazy I know but the stock one fits in only 1 way..
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mb911 |
Aug 23 2016, 04:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,902 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Interesting info here. I remember my last conversion the engine did sit exactly how I wanted it.. I am now actually considering putting my stock 914-6 mount in without the engine being installed. Crazy I know but the stock one fits in only 1 way..
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porschetub |
Aug 23 2016, 05:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,707 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours?
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wndsnd |
Aug 23 2016, 07:31 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
I used the lower lip 3.5" measurement
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 23 2016, 08:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,570 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours? I removed the engine lid. It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP. Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time. I then spent the afternoon getting back to my carburetors after changing venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before. Very nice results. |
jkb944t |
Aug 24 2016, 10:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 17-January 05 From: Canton, OH Member No.: 3,459 Region Association: None |
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours? I removed the engine lid. It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP. Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time. I then spent the afternoon getting back my carburetors after changing venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before. Very nice results. It did take a considerable amount of dexterity and several tries to take that picture. What did your measurement turn out to be? Jeff B |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 24 2016, 10:50 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,570 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I wasn't able to measure mine as the engine lid is in the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ,how have others done this...Rory how did you do yours? I removed the engine lid. It was the only way to duplicate the measurement provided by the OP. Kind of difficult to keep the tape measure in place and the camera steady at the same time. I then spent the afternoon getting back my carburetors after changing venturies, mains, idles, emulsions and air corrections two weeks before. Very nice results. It did take a considerable amount of dexterity and several tries to take that picture. What did your measurement turn out to be? Jeff B There is a crease in the metal right behind 5 - 5/16" same references as the OP |
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