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| vin man |
 Feb 17 2017, 11:18 AM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
The headlight relay on my car is sticking. I need to tap it to get it to work. The part number on my relay is 111 941 583A. This is a 4 pin relay.
When I look up replacements, I find the same part number without the A at the end. And it is 5 prongs. Do I just not use one of the prongs or do I need to find the exact same relay? My existing relay: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i304.photobucket.com-11380-1487352399.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i304.photobucket.com-11380-1487352399.2.jpg) This is a pic of the replacement: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i304.photobucket.com-11380-1487352525.1.png) Replacement Relay |
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| iankarr |
Feb 17 2017, 11:20 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region 
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The pic of your existing relay didn't come through. can you edit and repost?
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| vin man |
Feb 17 2017, 11:23 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(cuddyk @ Feb 17 2017, 10:20 AM)  The pic of your existing relay didn't come through. can you edit and repost? Having photobucket issues. stand by |
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| vin man |
Feb 17 2017, 12:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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| vin man |
Feb 17 2017, 12:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Found this thread on The Samba: Samba thread
This is the wiring for the new, 5 pin relay: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/images.thesamba.com-11380-1487356047.1.jpg) It shows that 30 and 56 get jumpered. However, further down in the thread, it is recommended to not jumper them, but instead run a constant power supply to 30. QUOTE The jumper from 30 is a bypass of the high-beam flasher that was removed for USA markets. Just run a wire to relay terminal 30 from an always hot wire (a true 30 terminal), and you gain them back. QUOTE Just a note about the addition of another terminal 30 wire as I suggest-- make sure it is a thick wire (like the yellow or white from the relay to the fusesbox. That wire will be taking the high beam current of both sides, so it should be heavy enough to not overload. |
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| Mike Bellis |
Feb 17 2017, 01:03 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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You can always upgrade to an electronic version on the cheap...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...eadlight++relay |
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| vin man |
Feb 17 2017, 01:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Feb 17 2017, 12:03 PM) You can always upgrade to an electronic version on the cheap... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...eadlight++relay Thanks for the link and instructions! |
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| vin man |
Feb 19 2017, 01:13 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I already had the 5 pin relay so I went ahead and wired it in. I ran location 30 to a always hot source on the fuse block.
Edit: Do not run the pin 30 to constant hot. It did not work. Install a jumper between 30 and 56 and it works fine. |
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| vin man |
Feb 19 2017, 01:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 19-February 10 From: Gilbert, Arizona USA Member No.: 11,380 Region Association: Southwest Region |
oops
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