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Hella Headlight advice |
Biggles |
Jun 9 2017, 12:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
Hi All,
can anyone please confirm the correct H4 Hella headlight part number for use in the UK ? i.e. driving on the left. The PET doesn't show it just the porsche part number. I've got sealed beam US units in mine and want to replace. thanks Chris. |
SixerJ |
Jun 9 2017, 12:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
Do you definitely want Hella?, I was thinking of getting a pair of Cibie
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230545956036?_tr...K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
ConeDodger |
Jun 9 2017, 01:22 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,586 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
These are H4 housings with an H4 and an LED bulb provided by 914Rubber.com. The LED are clearly brighter.
You may be going for originality? In which case good luck. Attached image(s) |
arne |
Jun 9 2017, 01:29 PM
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Serial Rescuer of old vehicles... Group: Members Posts: 737 Joined: 31-January 17 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 20,799 Region Association: None |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right.
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Biggles |
Jun 9 2017, 02:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right. correct that's what i'm looking for. Cibies might be an option Jon, just seen the Hellas as a popular option. Just couldn't find them for driving on the left. |
porschetub |
Jun 9 2017, 02:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,698 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right. correct that's what i'm looking for. Cibies might be an option Jon, just seen the Hellas as a popular option. Just couldn't find them for driving on the left. I have them in my car,where is the number located,I could check for you if you like. |
SixerJ |
Jun 9 2017, 02:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right. correct that's what i'm looking for. Cibies might be an option Jon, just seen the Hellas as a popular option. Just couldn't find them for driving on the left. Thinking about it I think my Irish donor shell (originally sold in Scotland) had one manky looking Hella and it's in a crate along with other random bits. I will dig it out and see what it says |
Biggles |
Jun 9 2017, 02:37 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right. correct that's what i'm looking for. Cibies might be an option Jon, just seen the Hellas as a popular option. Just couldn't find them for driving on the left. Thinking about it I think my Irish donor shell (originally sold in Scotland) had one manky looking Hella and it's in a crate along with other random bits. I will dig it out and see what it says thanks guys, that would be great. |
Dave_Darling |
Jun 9 2017, 03:22 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,985 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Should be a standard 7" headlight, same as the ones found on a 911. And many other cars of the era.
--DD |
Chris914n6 |
Jun 9 2017, 05:48 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,319 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I have the old Cibie and current Hella, beam patterns are practically the same.
I think if you buy in the UK you will get the right ones. You can also check the Hella website for a usually 5 digit part number. |
Mark Henry |
Jun 10 2017, 06:57 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
These are H4 housings with an H4 and an LED bulb provided by 914Rubber.com. The LED are clearly brighter. Brighter doesn't mean it throws light further. Lots of tests on the net say they are brighter for close objects, but the LEDs are still not as good at throwing the light far down the road than good old halogens. This is a sports car... I want lights that spot that deer 50 feet earlier. LED's work well for all the other lights and you could always put LED's in your fog lights for closer objects. If you want to upgrade I'd buy the high end halogens for headlights. https://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html |
GeorgeRud |
Jun 10 2017, 07:34 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The Danial Stern site is very informative and accurate. Remember to use ceramic connectors if you go with the 100 watt option. I'm also a fan of the regular H4 lamps, though even the halogen sealed beam lights are pretty good.
This from someone who has had the 'pleasure' of clipping a deer with my 914. They look pretty big from the driver's seat! |
anderssj |
Jun 10 2017, 12:15 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hi All, can anyone please confirm the correct H4 Hella headlight part number for use in the UK ? i.e. driving on the left. The PET doesn't show it just the porsche part number. I've got sealed beam US units in mine and want to replace. thanks Chris. Hi Chris, The easiest way to see where an E-code light is to be used is to look at the line for the "cutoff rise" in the lens. For those that drive on the left (UK, Japan, Oz, etc) that cutoff line is at the 8 o'clock position. For rest of us, the line is around 4 o'clock. A couple of other tells: Cibie and Marchal both use a "TG" (for "traffic gauche") after the part number for lenses for left-hand traffic. Finally, lenses for left-hand traffic will usually have small arrows stamped into the front of the lens (usually under the "E2" or other qualifying E-code); they point to the side of the road you drive on. I'll see if I can attach a couple of pictures . . . . |
anderssj |
Jun 10 2017, 12:46 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Pictures of NOS Marchal H4 for left-hand traffic:
Every E-code light that's qualified for use in the UK, etc., should have these markings. If not, then it's time for the tape-on shield. As to how I ended up with this light . . . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Hope this helps! Steve A- |
SixerJ |
Jun 11 2017, 12:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
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SixerJ |
Jun 11 2017, 12:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 448 Joined: 24-June 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,042 Region Association: England |
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eitnurg |
Jun 11 2017, 01:41 AM
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Country Member Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Nairobi Member No.: 62 Region Association: None |
The "triangle" formed in the lens should be on the same side as the middle of the road: ie, for UK traffic, when driving on the left this area should be on the r/h side of the car.
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anderssj |
Jun 11 2017, 12:52 PM
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Dog is my copilot... Group: Members Posts: 1,656 Joined: 28-January 03 From: VA Member No.: 207 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
After taking these and looking at the beam cut off from the Marchal lamps im wondering if the are correct? Those Hellas are probably not OK for the UK--but you could put bulb in one, hook it up to 12volts and shine it against a wall to make sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Biggles |
Jun 12 2017, 02:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
In the U.K. He needs the H4 lens/reflectors that are for driving on the left. The asymmetrical low beam cutoff is flipped on lights for those locales. Not something we se here in the states. I suspect that the Hella part number for such light skin is eith one number higher or lower than for driving on the right. correct that's what i'm looking for. Cibies might be an option Jon, just seen the Hellas as a popular option. Just couldn't find them for driving on the left. I have them in my car,where is the number located,I could check for you if you like. Hi - can you check for me please - and provide the headlight number. it'll be something like 111 60x xxx All the Hella ones i see are for LHD and either without or with a side light hole. With a side light hole is obviously not correct for a 914. thanks |
Biggles |
Jun 12 2017, 02:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 5-September 13 From: UK Member No.: 16,353 Region Association: England |
thanks Steve for your pictures - i understand the Left vs right cut-offs on the glass. Cibies might be the other option.
Chris. |
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