Light bulb replacement, early fog light bulbs seem to be NLA at flaps- who has found a subtitiute or LED with same base? |
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Light bulb replacement, early fog light bulbs seem to be NLA at flaps- who has found a subtitiute or LED with same base? |
DRPHIL914 |
Sep 21 2018, 06:21 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
The bulb is a 7309 F2 12v 35W, and none of the FLAPS around here have them and on their computer show as NLA, Ebay FLEEBAY had a few but like NOS for $25 a bulb!! I will sell these restored fog lights and buy some new cheap LED that will fit in the same spot before I sped $25-$30 for one single bulb!
question is , is there a LED that has same base to fit in there, or some other source that I am unaware of that these could be purchased at a reasonable price? |
ejm |
Sep 21 2018, 06:57 AM
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I can see the light at the end of the tunnel Group: Members Posts: 2,695 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 224 Region Association: None |
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DRPHIL914 |
Sep 21 2018, 07:50 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I will check that out thanks! I found AuthenticClassics.com- Mercedes , uses same ones , listed at $9.97 a piece, and another company Genesis lighting, sells a pack of 10 for $63. too so that's an option. - |
76-914 |
Sep 21 2018, 08:24 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,513 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
So to clarify; there are no LED substitutes at this time? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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rgolia |
Sep 21 2018, 11:19 AM
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GeoJoe Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States |
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Chi-town |
Sep 21 2018, 11:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
Alternate Part Numbers for Osram 7309: Philips 12227, F2, 37R, E1, 00601, n618, Narva 49072, A12264, O-7309, Eiko 635B, Eiko 48052, Stanley A7275, 410-5017, AC/Delco L7309, GM 1547137, Hella 635, Bestell 8GA 002 083-131, Neglin 13014, Splendor 9214, Titra 421, Dr. Fischer Autolicht 1235, Jahn 1241
Usually used in Motorcycles, scooter, snowmobiles https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hla-635 Hella equivalent from summit $1.99 |
johnhora |
Sep 21 2018, 11:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Derby City KY Member No.: 107 Region Association: None |
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DRPHIL914 |
Sep 21 2018, 12:12 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,769 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
Excellent information: good to know for future reference for others as well -
Alternate Part Numbers for Osram 7309: Philips 12227, F2, 37R, E1, 00601, n618, Narva 49072, A12264, O-7309, Eiko 635B, Eiko 48052, Stanley A7275, 410-5017, AC/Delco L7309, GM 1547137, Hella 635, Bestell 8GA 002 083-131, Neglin 13014, Splendor 9214, Titra 421, Dr. Fischer Autolicht 1235, Jahn 1241 Usually used in Motorcycles, scooter, snowmobiles https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hla-635 Hella equivalent from summit $1.99 I did order these today, but I might get on summit racing and get a set of back ups from them -Thanks |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 21 2018, 12:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,900 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
they are unique but pretty cheap, plenty always in stock
The bulb is a 7309 F2 12v 35W, and none of the FLAPS around here have them and on their computer show as NLA, Ebay FLEEBAY had a few but like NOS for $25 a bulb!! I will sell these restored fog lights and buy some new cheap LED that will fit in the same spot before I sped $25-$30 for one single bulb! question is , is there a LED that has same base to fit in there, or some other source that I am unaware of that these could be purchased at a reasonable price? |
GregAmy |
Oct 15 2020, 06:57 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Gonna bump this one instead of starting new...
Foglight is out, I pulled it and found I have, apparently the early foglights in my '74. To my incredible surprise, it uses these large ungainly Phillips 12227 bulbs. NAPA couldn't provide them so now I'm wondering if, after a couple years, there may be an LED solution that someone is aware of? I have a single yellow foglight ("made in france") that uses a totally different bulb. Current suggestions for replacements? |
Spoke |
Oct 15 2020, 07:51 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,992 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
About 9W each; less than 1/3 the power of 35W bulb; twice as bright.
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Blue6 |
Oct 15 2020, 11:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,039 Joined: 3-October 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,470 Region Association: Southern California |
About 9W each; less than 1/3 the power of 35W bulb; twice as bright. Man, you do nice work.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
Tbrown4x4 |
Oct 16 2020, 02:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 13-May 14 From: Port Orchard, WA Member No.: 17,338 Region Association: None |
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Spoke |
Oct 16 2020, 07:09 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,992 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Highly recommended. Spoke's LED boards and Mark's yellow fog lenses. I've been meaning to post pictures, but haven't taken any yet. Ok, I guess I have pictures. More impressive at night. @jim_hoyland If a yellow look is desired, it looks like the best way is to use white LEDs with yellow fog lenses. I did a pair of "yellow" LED fogs for Jim but the color is very deep either yellow or amber, depending on your reference. It seems the LED manufacturers mix the colors amber and yellow together interchangably. From wikipedia, they claim yellow has a dominant wavelength of roughly 570–590 nm The "yellow" LEDs I used were OSRAM Yellow with wavelength of 590nm (583nm ~ 595nm). Other manufacturers claim the same wavelengths for yellow and amber: Everlight Amber 589nm (585nm ~ 593nm) Everlight Yellow 589nm (585nm ~ 593nm) Cree XPE2 Amber (585nm ~ 595nm) Here's Jim's fogs and the color it produces. Very deep yellow/amber; not sure which it is. Here's fogs with white LEDs behind yellow lenses. I think these are @Tbrown4x4 's. Notice how light the yellow looks compared to the "yellow" LEDs above. |
jim_hoyland |
Oct 16 2020, 07:14 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,328 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm going to get a second opinion first; but I think the white LEDs with the yellow tinted film might be the way to go. I used the yellow film on my boxster and it's just right,
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