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Lifts, 2 Post Hydraulic Lift Questions |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 14 2019, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
All,
I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear. I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way. I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift. 1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)? 2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites. 3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one: https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l...#productDetails My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible. THANK YOU ALL TEENERS! CTC911CTC |
BPic |
Feb 14 2019, 11:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 341 Joined: 5-February 18 From: Miami, Florida Member No.: 21,864 Region Association: South East States |
I have this one:
https://www.maxjaxusa.com/buy-purchase-maxj...rd-package.html I really like it and you can unbolt one side and leave the other installed to have more room when not in use. (it has wheels) I just cover the holes in the floor with a matt when not installed. If I remember the anchoring system goes 4-5" in the floor and there are 7? anchors per post. Good luck! |
mepstein |
Feb 14 2019, 12:14 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,260 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The lift should have specific installation instructions as well as minimum thickness for the concrete pad.
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ClayPerrine |
Feb 14 2019, 12:59 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,443 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work.
If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts. My $/02. Clay |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 14 2019, 01:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things,
Thank you, CTC911CTC You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work. If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts. My $/02. Clay |
ClayPerrine |
Feb 14 2019, 04:00 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,443 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
They make a few short versions of the two post lifts, but they are not clear floor lifts. The mechanism that syncs the two sides has to cross over somewhere, so if it can't cross over above, then it has to cross over below the car. Some of them can be installed with the crossover mechanism embedded in the concrete. That would be more expensive and invasive of the old carriage house's floor. If the floor is not original, you could buy the lift and replace the floor in the carriage house that was thick enough for the lift and had the crossover channel poured with the floor.
Hope that helps. Not going to happen, brick carriage house, rebuilding would ruin many things, Thank you, CTC911CTC You are not going to get most two post lifts under an 8 foot ceiling. My garage is 10ft ceiling, and it is ok for short cars (and a short mechanic). When I put my truck on there, I have to sit on a stool to be able to work. If you are doing construction on the building, make the ceiling 12ft. Then you get a lot more choice in lifts. My $/02. Clay |
jvmarino |
Feb 14 2019, 07:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 80 Joined: 22-March 09 From: Baltimore Member No.: 10,188 Region Association: None |
Max Jax is pretty much your only option. That is what I had in my garage in a city rowhouse.
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wndsnd |
Feb 14 2019, 07:35 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything.
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mepstein |
Feb 14 2019, 08:47 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,260 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything. Great hobby lift. |
iankarr |
Feb 15 2019, 06:25 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Quick Jack is another great option. The lift sections are trapezoidal so they don’t need to be anchored to the floor and there’s no minimum concrete thickness. It doesn’t lift as high as max Jax, but the 21 inches or so is more than adequate to work on a creeper. In my opinion, there are really only two workable heights anyway....on your back or above your head. If you don’t have the ceiling height for the latter, quick jack is an easy and portable solution. I use it in my small garage and there’s an unboxing, setup, and 914 lift video in my signature...
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mgphoto |
Feb 15 2019, 08:47 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
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rgolia |
Feb 15 2019, 09:53 AM
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GeoJoe Group: Members Posts: 704 Joined: 5-February 10 From: PA Member No.: 11,329 Region Association: North East States |
I agree Max Jack is fantastic at that ceiling height. I have to dolly around underneath, but the entire undercarriage is basically open and available to you. I have a 911 2.7 in my car and take it out and put it in for regular maintenance and there is no problem with car balance on the lift. I would say the height of the car underneath is approx. 4'6" with the 914. Not enough to stand under, but with a rolling chair, you can do almost anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Get one of these and you are set. |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 15 2019, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
After carefully considering what was posted, my limiting factor is height. I thought that I could get 2 914s into the garage with a 2 post lift, however, all of the 2 post systems I saw on-line are at least 112 inches where my ceiling is exactly 100.5 inches. I cannot raise the ceiling, no way. I most likely will go with a roll-away floor lift like EZCarlift or similar. Only one car only will ever fit in the garage........
Thank you AGAIN all teeners CTC911CTC All, I am rebuilding the garage, very small NE garage 19' x 10' and about 8' clear. I am thinking about installing a 2 post lift where each post would be against the walls, out of the way. I am concerned about the safety of these lifts, I would only be putting 914s or 911s on this lift. 1. Is the anchoring of the pad sufficient to keep these from tilting (forward/back)? 2. How deep do the anchors need to be placed into the floor? Very little detail on web sites. 3. Are there any preferences as to vendors? I have been looking at this one: https://www.toolots.com/two-post-car-lift-l...#productDetails My requirements are that the lift be as small (footprint) and safe as possible. THANK YOU ALL TEENERS! CTC911CTC |
John |
Feb 15 2019, 12:45 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Each of the two Rotary lifts (7,000# and 10,000#) are clear floor, asymmetrical two post lifts. Each of them (and many others) call for a minimum of 3,000 PSI concrete with a minimum thickness of 4 1/2". They both require 3/4" concrete anchors with a minimum length of 5 1/2" with a minimum anchor embedment of 3-1/2".
The anchors must be properly installed and the torque rating is supposed to be at least 150 ft-lbs. My floor is more than 6" thick and I had no problems drilling and torquing my anchor bolts to my floor when I installed my lifts. At least Rotary Lifts does have ways of making the lifts fit low ceiling clearance, and narrow or wide bays, but lift height might be affected. |
Chi-town |
Feb 15 2019, 02:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 850 Joined: 31-August 18 From: Disneyland Member No.: 22,446 Region Association: Southern California |
If you can't go up, what about down?
Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling. |
mepstein |
Feb 15 2019, 02:55 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,260 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If you can't go up, what about down? Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling. Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall. |
ctc911ctc |
Feb 15 2019, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 892 Joined: 9-June 18 From: boston Member No.: 22,206 Region Association: North East States |
Good thing I am an engineer! The concrete is 100 years old and not a crack. Not sure why it survived 100 winters but I would not cut it up.......thought about it.......just can’t do it. If you can't go up, what about down? Cut the floor, drop it 6"and pour it as thick as you need and gain a bit of height without touching the ceiling. Expensive but possible an option. Might have to check with an engineer before you remove the floor next to a wall. |
Mark Henry |
Feb 16 2019, 08:47 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
There's a one post lift, plus it can be rolled out into the driveway.
https://www.atlasautoequipment.ca/atlas-psp...PRoCEu0QAvD_BwE |
sithot |
Feb 16 2019, 09:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 446 Joined: 25-October 06 From: Virginia Member No.: 7,090 Region Association: None |
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ledfoot |
Feb 16 2019, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 14-February 06 From: Dayton,OH Member No.: 5,581 Region Association: None |
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