Rocker Replacement - Screws for Rivets, Sheet metal screw size? |
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Rocker Replacement - Screws for Rivets, Sheet metal screw size? |
FlacaProductions |
Sep 8 2019, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Done a lot of reading on old threads here and have found that sizes for the bolts on the bottom of the rocker covers are 6MM X 12 (or 16 mm long) and the two screws in the fender well are #8X3/4 - but I can't find reference for a sheet metal screw size if you switch from rivets across the top...
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North Coast Jim |
Sep 9 2019, 06:14 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 323 Joined: 11-December 15 From: Northern Ohio Member No.: 19,450 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Done a lot of reading on old threads here and have found that sizes for the bolts on the bottom of the rocker covers are 6MM X 12 (or 16 mm long) and the two screws in the fender well are #8X3/4 - but I can't find reference for a sheet metal screw size if you switch from rivets across the top... Thanks! Use the rivets. I used pop rivets. The standard aluminum ones. Wrong color of course so I colored them with a magic marker. Looks good. |
JOEPROPER |
Sep 9 2019, 07:05 AM
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The answer is "no" unless you ask... Group: Members Posts: 1,184 Joined: 21-November 15 From: White Plains New York Member No.: 19,387 Region Association: North East States |
Done a lot of reading on old threads here and have found that sizes for the bolts on the bottom of the rocker covers are 6MM X 12 (or 16 mm long) and the two screws in the fender well are #8X3/4 - but I can't find reference for a sheet metal screw size if you switch from rivets across the top... Thanks! Use the rivets. I used pop rivets. The standard aluminum ones. Wrong color of course so I colored them with a magic marker. Looks good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) My '75 had aluminum rivets, which were perfect. My other '75 has bolts, which will be replaced with rivets. |
mlindner |
Sep 9 2019, 07:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I did two 914's at work and had some problems. One, holes sizes all over the place.....two fiberglass rocker will crack out using rivets. One of the cars and mine at home I used the black screws that have a collar around them. Looks a little bigger but works really well. Not sure of the size, will have to buy a few and test. Best, Mark
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Spoke |
Sep 9 2019, 07:44 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,986 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I got several sizes of metal screws and used the ones that fit. #6 or #8, 3/8 inch. As long as the head doesn't interfere with the door you'll be ok. You can file down the head if too tall. I don't like the rivets as it makes it difficult to remove the rocker panels for quick clean outs. The 914 was a low budget car thus pop rivet the rockers and weld on the muffler heat shield.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Sep 9 2019, 08:37 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,873 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
too many have wallowed out the rivet holes in the top unfortunately necessitating larger rivets or screws, use the factory plastic rivets like previously stated if you can
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FlacaProductions |
Sep 9 2019, 12:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Good info/input here - i was thinking screws for quick/easy cleanouts like @Spoke mentioned (and I don't have a rivet tool....) but maybe I'll get the rockers off and see what's underneath and the condition of the rivet holes and see what's what....
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Mikey914 |
Sep 9 2019, 02:58 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,671 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Got the pop rivets in black if you need them
https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/r...black-aluminum- The screws are the cheese head ones like the engine tin use. I use the stainless allen screws as they are easier to remove and you don't see them have those also if you need them https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/e...nd-washer-set-1 |
enf2232 |
Sep 9 2019, 05:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 86 Joined: 13-July 14 From: Toledo, OH Member No.: 17,621 Region Association: None |
Just did mine - fiberglass. Used standard pop rivets, steel, 1/8" size x 1/4" grip,
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PCH |
Sep 10 2019, 03:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 3-January 19 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 22,772 Region Association: Southern California |
Put new metal rocker panels on the car. Forgot to drill out the holes prior to painting them. Marked where the drill holes are suppose to go. Then decided to see if it actually needed to be plastic riveted (exactly how strong are the plastic rivets anyway?).
So far so good. It looks like those plastic rivets aren't needed after all. Does anyone have any experience not using fasteners in the top of the rocker panels? |
bobboinski |
Sep 13 2019, 08:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 23-April 16 From: Petaluma Member No.: 19,929 Region Association: Northern California |
Got the pop rivets in black if you need them https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/r...black-aluminum- The screws are the cheese head ones like the engine tin use. I use the stainless allen screws as they are easier to remove and you don't see them have those also if you need them https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/e...nd-washer-set-1 Pop rivet link doesn't work for me. |
mepstein |
Sep 13 2019, 09:09 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,296 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Porsche used plastic rivets so you could remove them with a razor blade and not have to drill them out.
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FlacaProductions |
Nov 19 2019, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Getting things together to take off the rockers and see what's what under there and make sure things are clean etc. - I have the rocker kit/rivets coming from @Mikey914 - suggestions on what rivet tool to get. I have no clue on this one.....
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914forme |
Nov 19 2019, 09:17 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Any will do in reality, if doing a lot of them high quality air riveter, if doing a 914, most anyplace will sell one. If you need an idea HERE
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FlacaProductions |
Nov 19 2019, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,595 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Ah. Got it. Thanks much. Funny - never been around one so I didn’t know the details as to how they handled different size rivets. I get it now. Cool.
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TonyA |
Nov 20 2019, 08:37 AM
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Nachmal Group: Members Posts: 472 Joined: 17-November 16 From: Hilltown PA Member No.: 20,596 Region Association: North East States |
Porsche used plastic rivets so you could remove them with a razor blade and not have to drill them out. What gun do/did you use for the plastic rivets? I got some plastic rivets a few years ago and the stem seemed to be to short for any of my rivet guns and also to thin to grab. |
Mikey914 |
Nov 20 2019, 10:46 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,671 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Got the pop rivets in black if you need them https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/r...black-aluminum- The screws are the cheese head ones like the engine tin use. I use the stainless allen screws as they are easier to remove and you don't see them have those also if you need them https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/e...nd-washer-set-1 Pop rivet link doesn't work for me. Somehow that didn't make it to the new site https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/r...lack-aluminum-1 Cheesehead https://900designs-container.zoeysite.com/c...ead-screw-set-1 Sorry old post Attached thumbnail(s) |
914forme |
Nov 20 2019, 02:56 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Porsche used plastic rivets so you could remove them with a razor blade and not have to drill them out. What gun do/did you use for the plastic rivets? I got some plastic rivets a few years ago and the stem seemed to be to short for any of my rivet guns and also to thin to grab. Most of them are meant to be driven in to expand the fingers and not pulled out. Short pin is a sign that it goes into the rivet and expands the fingers. |
wes |
Nov 20 2019, 10:28 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,589 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California |
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falcor75 |
Nov 20 2019, 11:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,579 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
I've got plastic rivets at the top and M6 screws on the bottom. Makes it nice and easy to remover the rockers when needed.
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