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neo914-6	Dec 29 2005, 02:09 AM Post #41
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	Also, do I leave the space in the u-tab on both sides of the drop link or add spacers/washers? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Attached image(s)

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Dec 29 2005, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Dec 29 2005, 12:09 AM)

Also, do I leave the space in the u-tab on both sides of the drop link or add spacers/washers? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

You need that lower Heim Joint to be able to move, so dont just stack washers... they make special cone shaped washers for exactly that reason.

As far as the horizontal bar goes, set them the same on both sides, the are adjustable so you can increase or decrease the amount of force transfered. Closer to the end is weaker, closer to the bar is stronger

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Dec 29 2005, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Dec 29 2005, 10:48 AM)

they make special cone shaped washers for exactly that reason.

Where do you get these?

Thanks!

sj914	Dec 29 2005, 04:11 PM Post #44
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 20-August 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,053	Their called rod end spacers. Hererod spacer

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Dec 29 2005, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE (sj914 @ Dec 29 2005, 02:11 PM)

Their called rod end spacers.

Hererod spacer

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) $8 shipping for $2 parts...

sj914	Dec 29 2005, 05:31 PM Post #46
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 20-August 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,053	You could try a shop that does suspension work. here's another link

BIGKAT_83	Dec 29 2005, 06:29 PM Post #47
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States	(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Great link thanks.................... Bob

Terryst1	Jan 1 2006, 07:55 PM Post #48
Terryst1 Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 7-April 03 Member No.: 533 Region Association: None	Hi Felix: I was cruising the site and wanted to offer some suggestions based on my experience. 4 years ago, I met Scottie at PorscheFest and was BITTEN to do a 914 conversion car. It is done and has been running for about 2 years: 500HP 383, 930 trans, rollcage, big Willwood brakes, full suspension mods. It is a HOOT to out-drag Corvettes on the straights and terrorize them in the corners. I started with with idea of going to Scottie, but quickly learned that he was not a reliable source. I don't trust him and he knows it! Suggestions: -The first thing is to GET RID of Scotties cheap plastic 90s in the cooling system. They were NEVER designed to work in an automotive application and when I pulled them from a friends car, found that the threaded part had COLLAPSED from heat and tightening pressure. On my car I chased around until I found BRASS parts that will cost about $12 ea, but will last. -If you are getting help from Brad "all914.com", HE IS THE EXPERT and is absolutely honest! Follow his suggestions. -The RH engine cross-bar is JUNK and it is easy to see that they BEND with the car sitting dead in the driveway. I made my own out of 2" X 2" and made it a structural part of the car. Your engine mount looks good and should do the job for your application. -Go for the t-stat housing as already suggested that allows the neck to rotate to any angle. It has 2 parts a base plate and a neck free to rotate. If not Summit, they are cheap on e-bay. -With 400 HP, you may be OK on the cooling side. However, it you have troubles keeping the car cool, I would recommend going 1-1/4" with ALL cooling hoses. My bud is a graduate mechanical engineer and taught me that most efficient cooling occurs when the water flows at the HIGHEST RATE. This is science, don't listen to Scottie back-yard nonsense. Question: How goes Chris Julian's car? Has he fixed the huge oiling problem he had a while back when he was down south here for the annual 914 gathering. BTW: smoothing driving (especially shifting) as you did in you slalom video should keep that 901 trans living a good while. It seems that they will take a 400 HP engine (actually the issue is TORQUE) if driven carefully. Best of luck, Terry

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Jan 1 2006, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE (Terryst1 @ Jan 1 2006, 05:55 PM)

Question: How goes Chris Julian's car? Has he fixed the huge oiling problem he had a while back when he was down south here for the annual 914 gathering.

Best of luck,

Terry

Terry,

Good to hear from you, I "think" I have most of the issues solved but I will revisit the use of the plastic elbows.

As you know Chris doesn't do things halfway so he plunked down huge coin to completely rebuilt his engine to modern specs and at least 500hp. He even followed your advise on the cross-over headers. He is close to re-installing the engine but has not done so yet. His new company has absorbed most of his time and doesn't even check this bbs much anymore. Let me know if you're ever in the SF Bay Area...

Keep in touch!

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Jan 1 2006, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE (Terryst1 @ Jan 1 2006, 05:55 PM)

Hi Felix:

I was cruising the site and wanted to offer some suggestions based on my experience. 4 years ago, I met Scottie at PorscheFest and was BITTEN to do
a 914 conversion car. It is done and has been running for about 2 years: 500HP 383, 930 trans, rollcage, big Willwood brakes, full suspension mods. It is a HOOT
to out-drag Corvettes on the straights and terrorize them in the corners. I started with with idea of going to Scottie, but quickly learned that he was not a reliable source. I don't trust him and he knows it!

Suggestions:

-The first thing is to GET RID of Scotties cheap plastic 90s in the cooling system. They were NEVER designed to work in an automotive application and when I pulled them from a friends car, found that the threaded part had COLLAPSED from
heat and tightening pressure. On my car I chased around until I found BRASS parts that will cost about $12 ea, but will last.

-If you are getting help from Brad "all914.com", HE IS THE EXPERT and is absolutely honest! Follow his suggestions.

-The RH engine cross-bar is JUNK and it is easy to see that they BEND with the car sitting dead in the driveway. I made my own out of 2" X 2" and made it a structural part of the car. Your engine mount looks good and should do the job for your application.

-Go for the t-stat housing as already suggested that allows the neck to rotate to any angle. It has 2 parts a base plate and a neck free to rotate. If not Summit, they are cheap on e-bay.

-With 400 HP, you may be OK on the cooling side. However, it you have troubles keeping the car cool, I would recommend going 1-1/4" with ALL cooling hoses.
My bud is a graduate mechanical engineer and taught me that most efficient cooling occurs when the water flows at the HIGHEST RATE. This is science, don't listen to Scottie back-yard nonsense.

Question: How goes Chris Julian's car? Has he fixed the huge oiling problem he had a while back when he was down south here for the annual 914 gathering.

BTW: smoothing driving (especially shifting) as you did in you slalom video should
keep that 901 trans living a good while. It seems that they will take a 400 HP engine (actually the issue is TORQUE) if driven carefully.

Best of luck,

Terry

HUH???

I appologise in advance for the impending highjack of your thread, but miss information, and blatant lies should not be given the oportunity to propigate (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

- The "Plastic" fittings were designed by a Major Automotive Manufactur, they are made of the same material as the intake manifold (which has coolant runnning through it) on the Chevy LS1. The threads on yours stripped because they are pipe threads (tapered) and you are not smart enough to stop torquing on the fitting when it's tight. I have personally torqued a hose clamp onto the fittings while hot from boiling water, and witnessed no observable defflection.
Nothing wrong w/ using brass fittings, but be sure they aren't necked down inside, which will kill the flow. And dont over tighten them, or you will be bitching about the aluminum mounts not being strong enough (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)

- All914.com does not exist. Brad is a fairly active member of this board. Great guy, no argument. He is THE guy to talk to for set-up, suspension stuff etc. Last i heard, he is not in the conversion buisness however. It's kinda like asking your dentist to take a look at your broken hand... Better than most, but he will refer you to an expert.

- Bull (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/stromberg.gif) The RH mount has over twice the torsional ridgity of the factory mount. If you want to make a heavier one... more power to you, but dont try to blow smoke over it.

- The RH mount works just fine w/ the RH Water pump inlet, the problems arise when people try to use their own motor mount bar. The rotating inlet is a good solution.

- There is a guarantee behind the "backyard nonsense" It is Guaranteed to work. According to your friend with no real world experiance, you should also remove the thermostat, as the water will be flowing faster, but it is well documented that Chevy small blocks overheat without a thermostat (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) The Chevy Motor must have never met your friend (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chairfall.gif)

In conclusion, if you have a problem w/ Scott, that's fine, just dont try to make up defficancies with his product to cover up your own agenda (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)

neo914-6	Jan 1 2006, 09:54 PM Post #51
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	Got the pump in but my isolators are too loose in the side mount. I may go ahead and mount them solid and of course I need to move it to the right to take the kinks out. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Found out the fuel line in the tunnel is metal, thanks Brad and crew... There are no limits to individual experience and opinions. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s)

BIGKAT_83	Jan 1 2006, 10:18 PM Post #52
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,798 Joined: 25-January 03 From: Way down south Bogart,GA Member No.: 194 Region Association: South East States	Wrong on that one Crazyhippy no coolant flows thru the plastic Intake on the genIII (LS1/LS7)engines. A better example would be almost all of the newer cars have radiator tanks made of the fiber reinforced plastic. The plastic fittings I've seen used with the Renegade kit are or were made by Gann. May be wrong but they are maded for the piping of natural gas. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Bob

Crazyhippy	Jan 2 2006, 01:04 PM Post #53
Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None	I stand corrected... mind was tweaked, coolant does not run through the intake on an LS1 (unless you try to run Far too much nitrous... then coolant runs through lots of things (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) Poured coolant out of the intake on a friends car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) ) The radiator end caps work just fine. I dont think they allow at gas to be run through rubber hose, so i doubt these fittings were designed for this. If you have a spare, clamp a piece of hose to it w/ a normal clamp. and drop it into a pot of boiling water. In 5, 10, 30 minutes remove it, let it cool, remove the clamp and hose, and there is no Visible distortion (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) I've tried it. It works. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

neo914-6	Jan 10 2006, 12:51 AM Post #54
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	Finally finished the installation of the fuel pump. Had to get different size grommets because the 1" were just loose enough to slip out. The vibration isolators didn't hold the pump from the side so I used some plastic bushings. Soldered on a connector. Drilled new holes to relocate the pump. Changed the bolts 3 times, sheesh all this eats so much time... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) Attached image(s)

neo914-6	Feb 24 2006, 02:14 AM Post #55
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	had to clean up in front of the garage getting rid of a couple of engines and my wife's attachment to her first car. At least the engine is off the stand and I've started to assemble things. Cut an aluminum dust shield, installed the pilot bearing (hope the pounding didn't mess up the crank) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) , fit the adapter plate... Attached image(s)

neo914-6	Feb 24 2006, 02:14 AM Post #56
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	dirty tranny... Attached image(s)

neo914-6	Feb 24 2006, 02:19 AM Post #57
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	clean tranny... Attached image(s)

Andyrew	Feb 24 2006, 02:33 AM Post #58
Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California	901 spare? or Jaide trani? Glad your making progress on your car! Im considering cutting up those headers you gave me and make it so I can bend exhaust up the axles.. I need the extra space up there to run my magnaflows so I can cross them by my trani and run a rice muffler as a side exhaust per side....btw, got my mig... Ye haw!! let me know if you got any progress on that trani thing... I wont have any money till after the wcc.. ( need to pm you about that to...) but I think its possible for me.. keep workin on that thing! You'll get it done!

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Mar 26 2006, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Feb 24 2006, 12:33 AM)

901 spare? or Jaide trani?

Glad your making progress on your car!

Im considering cutting up those headers you gave me and make it so I can bend exhaust up the axles.. I need the extra space up there to run my magnaflows so I can cross them by my trani and run a rice muffler as a side exhaust per side....btw, got my mig... Ye haw!!

let me know if you got any progress on that trani thing... I wont have any money till after the wcc.. ( need to pm you about that to...) but I think its possible for me..

keep workin on that thing! You'll get it done!

same "bitchin" tall geared 901...Can't seem to get a quote from UK on the Renault or Derick's re-geared Audi. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Guess the GT40 guys don't want to share the love...

Gas tank is in and 914 is OFF the jackstands! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

Just need to hook up everything and get power to the fuel pump...

I'm havin a (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer3.gif)

neo914-6	Apr 2 2006, 01:07 AM Post #60
neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159	I expected to use a hammer on the firewall for valve cover clearance but the w/p hose is also compressed between the head. Too tight for comfort! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) Attached image(s)

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