Start of my YCTA914 project., pics, drawings, you name it.... |
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Start of my YCTA914 project., pics, drawings, you name it.... |
Mueller |
Nov 11 2005, 07:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
The start of my YCTA914 project....You Cannot Turbo A 914
Here is your chance to learn from my mistakes I plan on including as much info as I can, including drawings in PDF format and DXF files for those that can use them. Use all information at your own risk, or don't use it at all due to it being the worse design you've ever seen (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) 1st off are the flanges that'll attach the turbocharger to the collector on the European Racing header. The turbocharger is a TD04-09B-6cm2 from a 3000GT/Stealth that ran the twin turbo V6 models (AWD I think) More info on my turbo as well as many others can be found here: http://www.stealth316.com/2-turboguide.htm Currently nothing special done to the motor (stock '74 1.8) Only mods is the header and more importantly, the aftermarket fuel injection, mine is a Link ECU http://www.link-electro.co.nz/home.html (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1131758941.jpg) |
Mueller |
Nov 11 2005, 07:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Just so you know, many times these are available pre-made on eBay and other sources, this is for those frugal people (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
PDF files: 3 flanges, no dimensions Flange to attach turbo to the header flange for turbo inlet flange for turbo exhaust dxf file of all 3 flanges PDF files should open up in your browser, if not, right click>save target as same goes for the dxf file Free DWG and DXF viewer another free DXF and other file viewer This post has been edited by Mueller: Nov 11 2005, 08:14 PM |
machina |
Nov 12 2005, 07:35 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
what about a twin turbo arrangement?
the TIV seems like a great motor for this, 2 small turbos, sweet. |
McMark |
Nov 12 2005, 12:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I'm excited to watch this thread because of cool turbo stuff, but also because of Mike's fun 3D graphics. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)
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914_1.8t |
Nov 13 2005, 01:34 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 3-June 04 From: East Bay Member No.: 2,149 |
Sonunds like a cool project (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
Mike, what's your target as far as HP for this turbo conversion? I've got a small I/C (off of my Passat) if you need it. |
pete-stevers |
Nov 13 2005, 01:45 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
mike ito think this is a great idea....[SIZE=7]BUT[SIZE=7] whatever happenned to the porsche in the old ladies garage??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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Mueller |
Nov 13 2005, 02:06 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Hi Sonu, How is your project? I'll be happy with about 150 or so hp. I'm trying to do it less than $400 for the conversion, if I can keep it under that amount and I see no reason why not, it'll cost me $2.66 per horsepower. How much for the IC? I still owe you some money for those early rear flanges...... So far: Turbo = $250 (professionally rebuilt, new cartridge and bearings) Collector>turbo = $35 The plumbing to the intake, and the oil lines and water lines for cooling the turbo might add up in costs so I'll have to really be careful with these items. |
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Andyrew |
Nov 13 2005, 02:18 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Keep at it mike.
I want to buy another 914 4, and turbo it. Been racking in the back of my brain for a while... I think it would be awesome if you could market a kit... I would love to help with that.. sub 2k for a turbo kit would be cool. Andrew |
Dave_Darling |
Nov 13 2005, 03:17 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,982 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Not that easy to make a good twin-turbo setup. The two left-side cylinders fire, then the two right-side ones, then the two left-side ones... So if you hook the turbos up to the cylinders on one side, you'll get exhaust flow and then nothing, then more flow and nothing. If you hook them to the front two cylinders, and the rear two, then you get a more constant flow of exhaust. But it's hard to package a front-and-rear setup like that. --DD |
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J P Stein |
Nov 13 2005, 04:02 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Another "Meuller Project" ?........what happened to the last one...and the one before that....and....nice graphics tho....again (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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DrifterJay |
Nov 13 2005, 04:42 PM
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I break stuff... Group: Members Posts: 1,034 Joined: 25-May 03 From: Oceanside, California Member No.: 737 Region Association: None |
Mueller, I am really looking forward to watching this project grow. After my six conversion is done sometime mid next year, I will be looking for another project. Being I already have a bunch of T4 stuff lying around, esp a nice complete 1.8 FI... Do it Mueller!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)
Jared (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smoke.gif) |
nomore9one4 |
Nov 13 2005, 05:23 PM
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Member of the Eastcoast Thread Killers Club Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Pittsburgh,Pa.15237 Member No.: 14 Region Association: None |
I think this may be my next project!! I may have over seen it.but what turbo do you use and where do you get it? Thanks for posting this.Bob (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)
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bug man nrg |
Nov 13 2005, 06:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 17-September 05 From: florida Member No.: 4,811 |
Hi guy turbo on a 914 works well if you use the turbo from a sabb .This small turbo it comes on boost quick and will hold 9lb all day the inter cooler to use is from a isusu truck or a 1.8t .we have had two 914 turbo set up's come in in the past both of them made over 150hp .this is not hard if you have the tool to make it work
www.emeraldperformance.com |
Andyrew |
Nov 13 2005, 06:53 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Speeking of intercoolers.. Mike do you plan on using an intercooler?
Bet you can find one at pick and pull cheap.... |
Mueller |
Nov 13 2005, 08:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
I have one from an old volvo 765, kinda big and outdated....I'm going to look at the IC that Sonu has and see how much he wants for it.....
Still working on a few of them, not in as much of hurry for those motorcycle individual throttle bodies, but I have not forgotten about them...believe it or not, I finished one project this weekend...I installed (my 1st time doing it) 3 recessed lights and a new ceiling fan...boy, does crawling in the attic suck (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) |
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914_1.8t |
Nov 13 2005, 10:14 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 302 Joined: 3-June 04 From: East Bay Member No.: 2,149 |
You can have the IC...consider it my contribution to progress, and I had forgotten about the hubs. Its small but is sufficient for upto 150-200 hp...it's used in all 150-190hp 1.8t cars and has 2" inlet/outlet.
You'll also need a BOV/BVP right before the TB...I've got one as well that will work for your hp/boost goals. You guessed it...it's off my 1.8t. As far as my project, it starts and idles/revs fine with the new 034efi standalone. So far idle and revving it im able to get 14.5-15.5 A/F...and have a good basemap. I am planning on taking it for final tunign soon to get max hp.......but before I can do that, I still need to have those bearing put the trailing arms...can you help with that? Attached image(s) |
Mueller |
Nov 13 2005, 10:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
that'll work....I'll try and swing by this week on the way home, I'll PM you for your phone number again...
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fiid |
Nov 13 2005, 11:19 PM
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California |
Awesome. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
I also owe you for some hubs! Let me know if I can help with the project in any way - you've saved my ass many times.. |
Mueller |
Nov 16 2005, 07:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Got my reducer from Burns today...ordered it Monday...great service
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ewdysar |
Nov 16 2005, 07:35 PM
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What happens here, stays here. Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Altadena, CA Member No.: 3,030 |
Talk to Tekkor, he seems to have a line on ductwork at reasonable prices... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Eric |
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