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> #269 Rust - Is it too far gone?
mr914
post Oct 10 2003, 02:08 PM
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2013 note...

Lesson 1- before attempting this at home, get the alignment checked on a frame machine. I built custom door/chassis reinforcement bars before going on the rotisserie. Assuming that the PO had repaired the longitudinals correctly.

After 12 years, the car finally landed on the jack stands. As the original Dorris were thoroughly rusted out, I had replacement doors. Bolted the replacement doors on, and the don't fit. Bolted original doors on and they do with funky gaps....

Put the reinforcement bars on and the fit like I had built them.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) looked at how the front strut upper plates were located. One has never moved based on factory tar, the other one had been moved 1/4-3/8"

Damn, why didn't I catch that years ago... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Did test assemble, top, doors gaskets. Car is square but the longs appear to be bowed, fortunately evenly.

Put the reinforcement bars on and they fit like I had built them.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

Based on the targa top fitment, it Looks like the car is bowed 1/8-3/16".

With the replacement doors, the front gap is good and even, the rear is 3/8" high at the body line (stack of 5 US Quarters).

Hung the original doors, drivers door is spot on, rusted at the bottom and evidence of a cut and re weld between the hinges. Damn-it, unbolted the doors, put them on the shelf in the basement and ignored them for 10+ years

About .040 in shims and the new doors are on and the gap varies by about 1/8"


More of that story, at the end of the post

Back to the original post...

Well, I have the car mostly stripped and up on a rotiserie.

When I got the car I saw the rust on the Sail panel, cowl, edges of the rear fenders and 2 small holes in the floor board.

Now that I have stripped it, It's much worse.

It's a '70 914-6 #269

What do you think?

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mr914   #269 Rust - Is it too far gone?   Oct 10 2003, 02:08 PM
mr914   Under the gas tank   Oct 10 2003, 02:09 PM
mr914   More under the fuel tank   Oct 10 2003, 02:10 PM
mr914   What's left on the pass side to attach the flo...   Oct 10 2003, 02:12 PM
Brad Roberts   I think its a 9146 and some good 4cyl sheet metal ...   Oct 10 2003, 02:12 PM
mr914   What's left on the pass side to attach the flo...   Oct 10 2003, 02:13 PM
mr914   What's left on the pass side to attach the flo...   Oct 10 2003, 02:13 PM
mr914   What's left on the pass side to attach the flo...   Oct 10 2003, 02:13 PM
mr914   What's left on the pass side to attach the flo...   Oct 10 2003, 02:14 PM
Bleyseng   Doesn't look that bad too me for a six. How ar...   Oct 10 2003, 02:15 PM
mr914   Inside front fender 1   Oct 10 2003, 02:15 PM
mr914   Lower portion of front inner fender   Oct 10 2003, 02:15 PM
mr914   Battery box area   Oct 10 2003, 02:16 PM
mr914   More battery box   Oct 10 2003, 02:17 PM
Brad Roberts   I think you 'really' have to love the 914...   Oct 10 2003, 02:18 PM
Brad Roberts   Damn.. the one area that is solid. This is a salt...   Oct 10 2003, 02:19 PM
mr914   I've got most of the parts and some cutouts fr...   Oct 10 2003, 02:20 PM
mr914   First time I've ever seen rust in the cowl are...   Oct 10 2003, 02:22 PM
Brad Roberts   Not in this state. Matter of fact.. I think I sti...   Oct 10 2003, 02:22 PM
mr914   This year???? I'm in Michigan, This is probb...   Oct 10 2003, 02:25 PM
mr914   I agree with the salt. It appears that the car wa...   Oct 10 2003, 02:30 PM
morgan   Why not just retub it. you can find a good tub tha...   Oct 10 2003, 03:29 PM
Brad Roberts   Are you and George Hussey related ?? Ranks right ...   Oct 10 2003, 03:32 PM
morgan   On second thought, buy brads. You will save so muc...   Oct 10 2003, 03:36 PM
Brad Roberts   I just see a lot of "crap" floating around when it...   Oct 10 2003, 03:41 PM
morgan   Retubbing a car is ONLY OK if you tell people you ...   Oct 10 2003, 03:55 PM
mr914   But if I re tub it. It would not be original. Th...   Oct 10 2003, 06:52 PM
Racer Chris   I've repaired all of those areas with new shee...   Oct 11 2003, 05:01 PM
Lotus914   Mike Galloway (Mike's 914's) may have some...   Oct 11 2003, 08:06 PM
rdauenhauer   Um ..I guess the questions are: what is more impor...   Oct 11 2003, 09:04 PM
Mark Henry   ...   Oct 12 2003, 06:17 AM
mr914   Thanks for the input. I'll have to check with...   Oct 13 2003, 02:03 PM
mr914   I noticed something different last night. My 914-...   Oct 13 2003, 02:05 PM
Racer Chris   My parts catalog doesn't even list the two gro...   Oct 13 2003, 05:07 PM
Lawrence   My /6 has two grommets, too. The only reason I no...   Oct 13 2003, 06:12 PM
mr914   Mine is basicly gone. I'm thinking about maki...   Oct 13 2003, 08:16 PM
mr914   Front trunk is good   Oct 13 2003, 08:20 PM
mr914   Except under one headlight bucket   Oct 13 2003, 08:21 PM
mr914   How close do you park your Porsches in your garage...   Oct 13 2003, 08:23 PM
mr914   No, I did not scratch either. Pulled mirror out f...   Oct 13 2003, 08:28 PM
mr914   Living on a dirt road sucks. :sick: Not to menti...   Oct 13 2003, 08:31 PM
mr914   Better shot of the pass longitudinal   Oct 13 2003, 08:33 PM
mr914   What's left of mounting the left floor panel t...   Oct 13 2003, 08:35 PM
mr914   Are you sick yet? :sick: Or ready to drink heavi...   Oct 13 2003, 08:38 PM
mr914   Except the back part   Oct 13 2003, 08:39 PM
mr914   Don't forget the lower part...   Oct 13 2003, 08:40 PM
mr914   Front part of the drivers rocker   Oct 13 2003, 08:42 PM
mr914   Pass vent area from inside.... MORE HORORS FROM ...   Oct 13 2003, 08:44 PM
mr914   Drivers front trunk gasket area   Oct 13 2003, 08:47 PM
mr914   Drivers side, under dash, behind windsheild. Yes,...   Oct 13 2003, 08:49 PM
mr914   Pass Front Gasket area   Oct 13 2003, 08:50 PM
Racer Chris     Oct 14 2003, 08:21 PM
Mark Henry   Send it up to Canada to Mike!!! He an...   Oct 14 2003, 10:33 PM
mr914   The rust under the dash, behind the windsheild... ...   Oct 15 2003, 06:12 AM
MJHanna   You got more guts or money than me to take this on...   Oct 15 2003, 06:29 AM
DNHunt   Boy I wish you well. I kinda feel like an ass post...   Oct 15 2003, 06:33 AM
sharper   I have the same issue under my gas tank and was wo...   Oct 15 2003, 12:47 PM
mr914   Money? Ha. I'm just like the rest of you. Ne...   Oct 16 2003, 10:28 AM
Bleyseng   Maybe use some of that rust free structual fibergl...   Oct 16 2003, 05:26 PM
mr914   Found rust bucket '73 2.0 in Taylortucky. Mot...   Oct 28 2003, 09:44 AM
mr914   Found 2nd Donor car ! This one may have good ...   Nov 4 2003, 10:56 AM
Chris H.   I *think* you could straighten that hood too. :lol...   Nov 4 2003, 11:37 AM
mr914   8 years.... 97 months.... 2935 days..... Littl...   Nov 22 2011, 10:49 AM
bandjoey   I'll bet it's now worth a bucket load of c...   Nov 22 2011, 10:59 AM
rick 918-S   Here's an idea. First you have to know your in...   Nov 22 2011, 11:01 AM
mr914   Drivers side   Nov 22 2011, 11:20 AM
mr914   passenger side   Nov 22 2011, 11:21 AM
mr914   I'm not in over my head on this one, I have th...   Nov 22 2011, 11:26 AM
SirAndy   Put up the whole lot for sale first and see if you...   Nov 22 2011, 12:13 PM
oh no, not again!   6yrs.....72 mo......2,190 days..... and finally of...   Nov 22 2011, 12:20 PM
mr914   Andy's right, sell it. The question was, is.....   Nov 22 2011, 12:26 PM
rick 918-S   Andy's right, sell it. The question was, is....   Nov 22 2011, 12:31 PM
McMark   :agree: that's totally fixable. Don't tos...   Nov 22 2011, 12:43 PM
mr914   The six is definately fixable, I had intended on ...   Nov 22 2011, 01:31 PM
zymurgist   I would think if you have a title for it, you coul...   Nov 22 2011, 01:38 PM
SirAndy   I would think if you have a title for it, you coul...   Nov 22 2011, 02:56 PM
veltror   if I am fixing mine then........   Nov 22 2011, 02:01 PM
mr914   Wow, I just looked at veltror's rustoration th...   Nov 22 2011, 02:36 PM
carr914   if I am fixing mine then........ :agree: and...   Nov 23 2011, 06:21 AM
r_towle   I might be interested in buying the six package. ...   Nov 23 2011, 06:51 AM
veltror   Wow, I just looked at veltror's rustoration t...   Nov 24 2011, 02:45 PM
mr914   Got warmer here today. Decided it was time to fid...   Mar 10 2012, 07:35 PM
mr914   Question for those of you who have replaced both c...   Mar 10 2012, 07:37 PM
pete000   Being from Michigan I am always surprised to see h...   Mar 10 2012, 08:35 PM
Midman914   How close are you to Ann Arbor? I would be interes...   Mar 21 2012, 07:15 PM
mr914   Spent hours on what looked like a good custom cut....   Jun 6 2012, 09:56 PM
Mr.242   Fix it...it is too much like having a hot girlfrie...   Jun 6 2012, 10:16 PM
rick 918-S   I have a California car here that had an engine an...   Jun 6 2012, 11:11 PM
mr914   Been too long since I did an update. A lot of pro...   Apr 14 2015, 08:08 PM
mr914   Patch for longitudinals to mount pan to   Apr 14 2015, 08:10 PM
mr914   RD inner longitudinal trim to fit   Apr 14 2015, 08:13 PM
mr914   Pan overplayed for test fit   Apr 14 2015, 08:15 PM
mr914   Of course there is always areas that the patch pan...   Apr 14 2015, 08:16 PM
mr914   Thanks bdstone for the Cali rust free cuts Took 3...   Apr 14 2015, 08:23 PM
mr914   One side repaired   Apr 14 2015, 08:24 PM
mr914   And the other   Apr 14 2015, 08:25 PM
mr914   3 dimensional welding.... Fender/door jamb/thresh...   Apr 14 2015, 08:27 PM
mr914   Tacking in   Apr 14 2015, 08:29 PM
mr914   Welded in. Worked out to be about .050 negative   Apr 14 2015, 08:30 PM
FourBlades   Nice progress! :Qarl: Keep it going. John   Apr 14 2015, 08:30 PM
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