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Vise Grip moves to China |
stock93 |
Dec 6 2008, 02:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 12-May 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 684 Region Association: South East States |
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This pisses me off. I've bought a bunch of their pliers and really like most of them. I for one won't be buying them anymore. Now if I manage to break one they're going to give me a china made replacement. If anyone wants to send them feedback here's their page http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/contactUs.jhtml I sent them a letter myself. John |
URY914 |
Dec 6 2008, 03:24 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,115 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Those guys need some hope and change fast.
No more V-grips for me. |
jd74914 |
Dec 6 2008, 03:30 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,782 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I don't understand. My house has always used vice-grip because they were the best and made here. Not any longer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
The situation really sucks for those guys. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 6 2008, 04:39 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Letter sent. The market for used Vise Grip pliers and clamps is gonna go outta sight!
The Cap'n |
GaroldShaffer |
Dec 6 2008, 04:43 PM
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You bought another 914? Group: Benefactors Posts: 7,624 Joined: 27-June 03 From: Portage, IN Member No.: 865 Region Association: None |
I just sent a letter myself. Not that it will change anything, but damn is there ANYTHING made in the USA anymore?
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Dr Evil |
Dec 6 2008, 05:51 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Poverty/unemployment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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markb |
Dec 6 2008, 07:23 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Letter sent. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Anybody know of a good alternative to their pliers? |
carr914 |
Dec 6 2008, 07:36 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 119,124 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
letter sent to those commy bastards
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Al Meredith |
Dec 6 2008, 07:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 961 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
I too have sent an email. I have worked for two companies ( one of them GE) that have had products made in China and they come back as real crap. Both of these companies are leaders in their field and since I am sort of a "techie" I tell them all the time "I hope you are making a lot of money on this stuff so that we can afford to replace it and pay for my time to trouble shoot ,"
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LarryR |
Dec 6 2008, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 929 Joined: 15-March 07 From: E. Bay Area, N. California Member No.: 7,604 |
Man that sucks. I am glad I own about a half dozen of the made in america ones.
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stock93 |
Dec 6 2008, 08:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 12-May 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 684 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks for the response guys. The only alternative I know of thats not real expensive is Sears used to sell their craftsman version of vise grips. They don't have all the variety but they cover the basics and are made is the US. Of course they are probably made at the Vise Grip facility.
John |
GeorgeRud |
Dec 6 2008, 09:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Unfortunately, it takes a while for these companies to find out that they're losing the very things that made them successful in the first place when they outsource to China. If I want a cheap tool that I don't care about, I use Harbor Freight. When I want a good quality tool, I call my local Snap-On distributor!
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jimtab |
Dec 7 2008, 02:58 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
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brer |
Dec 7 2008, 03:29 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,555 Joined: 10-March 05 From: san diego Member No.: 3,736 Region Association: None |
throw out everything in your house that says made in china on it or in it.
I dare you. |
dbgriffith75 |
Dec 7 2008, 08:32 AM
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TheGrif Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 25-July 07 From: Iowa, USA Member No.: 7,945 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE throw out everything in your house that says made in china on it or in it. I dare you. These days that's just about everything.... No wonder our economy is in the dump- things get a little shaky and now everybody's running off to the cheap labor sources. It won't matter if their products are coming back as real crap or not because pretty soon nobody's gonna be able to afford to buy their product anyway because nobody's gonna have a job. This reminds me of an email I received some weeks ago when we were getting those economic stimulus checks- I can't remember the bulk of it, but it was something to the effect of this: Where should we spend our economic stimulus money? If you spend it at Wal-Mart, it will go to china. If you buy some electronics, it will go to japan. If you buy gas, it will go to the middle east. So spend your money at garage sales- because those are the only businesses still based in America! |
BMartin914 |
Dec 7 2008, 08:42 AM
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This bites...
Anytime I need a set of Vise-Grips, I search out the ones in the box that aren't made in China or Taiwan, they never hold or grip worth a damn. |
Porsche Rescue |
Dec 7 2008, 11:11 AM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
What we are seeing with the "global" economy is a gradual leveling of the standard of living of working people. The countries with cheap labor and limited or no costs for safety/environmental issues will produce the product at the best price. We can buy cheap from Wal Mart and Harbor Freight. Now, what do the 300 workers in Nebraska do to earn the wages they once had? I don't know the solution but the problem is clear: working people in this country are seeing a reduced standard of living. The service industry does not pay the wages that manufacturing used to.
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stock93 |
Dec 7 2008, 11:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 12-May 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 684 Region Association: South East States |
Another thing related to this that really gets me ticked off is we pay a 17% tariff for US goods sold in China. The Chinese don't pay a tariff other than on paper due to the supreme courts ruling.
John |
greenie |
Dec 7 2008, 12:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 873 Joined: 26-October 04 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,013 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've spent my entire career in manufacturing, very few consumer products are still made in the U.S.A
My two questions to the "Vise Grip Corp." are: what took you so long, and why now? Are they unable to compete with the foreign copies? From the response on this thread it appears that we sure like their products & would continue to buy even at a higher price. I've always sought out the best products, no matter where they are made, not the cheapest. It sounds to me like they are making a big mistake moving this offshore, now the only thing they have going for them is their past reputation and name. This could disappear quickly and they will have nothing. |
spare time toys |
Dec 7 2008, 12:35 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sending this out on the AMFA union web. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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