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Is there a later 914?, Later than Porsche claims |
davep |
Feb 15 2004, 09:03 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,158 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Okay, so conventional wisdom says the last 914 made was 4762904075.
What do we make of this? Attached image(s) |
Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 09:29 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Poor record keeping by Porsche thats what. Glad this got posted as I saw it listed in the Members VIN file and couldn't believe my eyes.
I do know that Porsche put together as many of these cars as they could, stockpiling the bodies before VW/Karmann killed the line. I would like to know more about the car, what options it came with? The other "last 914's" we know of (4063 & 4073) all seems to have everything on them. Geoff |
rick 918-S |
Feb 15 2004, 09:34 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,503 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
That's coool! Is that the highest number anyone has seen?
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Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 09:47 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yes, the previous was the 4073 car which had pics posted a few months ago. So now mine is the 3rd newest car and slipping fast! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
The story I heard from my friend who worked for Porsche at that time (73-79) was that after Porsche anounced that the 914 line was killed interest in the cars soared. Dealers couldn't keep the cars in stock and were clamoring for more cars to sell and loaded with options so the sticker prices were high(and Dealer profits). I did test drive a 76 914 and I do remember there was only one or two on the lot. Took some talking for me to get to test drive it too. ( it was a orange car too,with that goofy pinstripping like mine had, go figure!) Geoff |
boxstr |
Feb 15 2004, 10:44 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Curious I never noticed but all 1976 914s have a 00/75 birthdate??Is this correct.
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 15 2004, 11:50 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
They started building the next model year in August of the previous year, I believe. So it's not surprising that a "short" production year would only be during those first four months.
One local guy claims that he used to own a 1976 1.8, with a build date of 01/76. --DD |
Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 12:27 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yes, all 76 cars where built and have a 75 year VIN. All the last cars were built in 12/75 so they built 4000 cars in 4 months and then shipped them out over the year.
DD, try to get a pic of these 76 1.8 VIN. That way we will all see or not see his claim. Geoff |
Joe Bob |
Feb 15 2004, 12:40 PM
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Well since Porsche did not actually have a whole lot of input past 1972 when the last 914/6 was delivered...one would think that "Porsche" didn't have a LOT to do with a 914/4 that was wholly manufactured by Karmann and VW.....so.....the better records would be from VW......wouldn't ya think? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 12:49 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Nope as Porsche bought out VW from the joint enterprise in 1974 to concentrate on the water cooled cars. So really 74 and later cars are "true" Porsches although the cars were assembled by Karmann and the engines were put together by VW on their engine line.
Porsche even considered moving the assembly of the 914 to another plant. Didn't work out as costs would have been too much. Porsche went on to have the 924 assembled by the Audi plant, but thats another story. Geoff |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 15 2004, 12:50 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Feb 15 2004, 10:27 AM) Yes, all 76 cars where built and have a 75 year VIN. You mean a 75 build date sticker, right? They do have "476" VINs, indicating a 76 model year. QUOTE DD, try to get a pic of these 76 1.8 VIN. That way we will all see or not see his claim. The key in my note is, "used to own". He doesn't own it any longer. I may try to pester him to remember who he sold the car to... --DD |
Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 12:53 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You know what I mean...the damn sticker in the pic.
some people are sooo anal..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
JeffBowlsby |
Feb 15 2004, 12:58 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,548 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
QUOTE One local guy claims that he used to own a 1976 1.8, with a build date of 01/76. I'm skeptical...ALL 76 cars are 2.0L...so why would his be different unless it was non-original? This is heresay until we see proof... <_< |
Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 01:01 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Yeah, and we was told for all these years that the last car was 4075. Soo, it remains to be seen.
There is also supposed to be this green and white car that we have no pics of too! Although, I have seen one of those. I have never seen a actual 76 build sticker. Geoff |
Joe Bob |
Feb 15 2004, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Feb 15 2004, 10:49 AM) Nope as Porsche bought out VW from the joint enterprise in 1974 to concentrate on the water cooled cars. So really 74 and later cars are "true" Porsches although the cars were assembled by Karmann and the engines were put together by VW on their engine line. Porsche even considered moving the assembly of the 914 to another plant. Didn't work out as costs would have been too much. Porsche went on to have the 924 assembled by the Audi plant, but thats another story. Geoff Really? News to me....but then I never was interested in 914s that were 75 and up anyways.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
SirAndy |
Feb 15 2004, 01:55 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(mikez @ Feb 15 2004, 10:40 AM) so.....the better records would be from VW......wouldn't ya think? nope, they were neither Porsche nor VW, they were VW-Porsche which was it's own separate company! and the VW-half was bought out by porsche after the fallout with VW, which means technically, they all became "real" porsches after that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Andy |
Joe Bob |
Feb 15 2004, 01:57 PM
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And what happened to the Porsche Audi dealers here in the US?
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SirAndy |
Feb 15 2004, 02:37 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(mikez @ Feb 15 2004, 11:57 AM) And what happened to the Porsche Audi dealers here in the US? interesting that you mention that, Porsche of North America was disolved and Porsche/Audi was actually owned and run by VW ! they used it to push their audi 100 under the porsche umbrella ... just read all about it last night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Andy |
SirAndy |
Feb 15 2004, 03:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(davep @ Feb 15 2004, 07:03 AM) Okay, so conventional wisdom says the last 914 made was 4762904075. actually, i also have seen the numbers 476 29 00001 - 476 29 04100 as the VIN range for '76 ... |
Bleyseng |
Feb 15 2004, 05:15 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have seen it both ways 4075 and 4100. I heard they put together as many cars as they could using up all the leftover body parts.
What does the German bible say to this? Geoff |
SirAndy |
Feb 15 2004, 06:57 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Feb 15 2004, 03:15 PM) What does the German bible say to this? the book says: "The production was discontinued in the Spring of 1976" |
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