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WOT--Guitar and mixer question, what to get for kid... |
crash914 |
May 22 2009, 10:58 AM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My son's birthday is comming up and we are trying to think what to get him..
He wants a 12 string acoustic. What is good? Takamine? Seagull? don't want to break the bank... Also looking for a mixer to interface with the computer, I am thinking about a powered mackie. 8 channel. We need to add several instruments and mic's. I have a tascam board now, but it doesn't power any monitor speakers. Looking for something that can travel. Thanks, herb |
rjames |
May 22 2009, 11:17 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,971 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE He wants a 12 string acoustic. What is good? Takamine? Seagull? don't want to break the bank... Check shops that sell used equipment, and craigslist.com. You should be able to pick up a used Takamine 12 string for around $400. They are decent guitars. Best thing to do is have him play a couple of them as one will feel better in his hands than another. Of course if it's going to be a surprise then that might not be possible. QUOTE Also looking for a mixer to interface with the computer, I am thinking about a powered mackie. 8 channel. We need to add several instruments and mic's. Since you already have a taskcam board, you could just keep that and get powered speakers instead. There are many brands that have amps built-in to them. Otherwise, Mackie is about as good as anything else in that price range. As far as mics, get a couple of SM57s because they are cheap. If you want a good sounding condenser mic, look at the low-end Rode mics. A great value for the money. If you want to get a nice tube mic for little $, look at the Chameleon Labs tube mic. They sound fantastic and are a fraction of what you'd pay for a higher end mic. A supurb all around great mic for recording would be a Neumann TLM103. They are inexpensive for how fantastic they sound, but they will still run you around $700. They are a do-everything mic. QUOTE I have a tascam board now, but it doesn't power any monitor speakers. Looking for something that can travel. Are you looking for a mixer that you can use live? Do you want to record your live gigs? If so, there are several rack mounted mixers that will do the job and you could always get something like a Motu USB rack mount Mixer/preamp to run directly into a laptop for the recording. Units like the MOTU usually come with some type of software that lets you record directly to a computer. You could hook up your powered speakers to it too for mixing. Hope this helps. |
So.Cal.914 |
May 22 2009, 11:26 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Check shops that sell used equipment, and craigslist.com. You should be able to pick up a used Takamine 12 string for around $400. They are decent guitars. Best thing to do is have him play a couple of them as one will feel better in his hands than another. Of course if it's going to be a surprise then that might not be possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Give him a voucher, I hated my first guitar. Even from the same company they can have a different weight, neck feel and action. |
crash914 |
May 22 2009, 11:55 AM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks!
We have played many different guitars...he likes the Takamine and others...it won't be a surprise.. The Tascam needs more inputs to be really useful. It is hard when we have 2 vocals, base, guitar and drums. Right now, he is really into making youtube videos...over 41 at last count. hmmm what about a hidef video camera? thanks, again, |
IronHillRestorations |
May 22 2009, 01:11 PM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
You'll be hard pressed to find a good 12 string without spending some money. Personally I'm a Taylor man, they are more than the imports, but even the low end Taylors play great. The Tayor price differences being the wood species, inlays, electronics, etc.
There are some cool USB mixers available now that have good features at good prices. I'd look for three or four band channel e.q. if you are using any live mics. If it's all line inputs then you don't need much channel eq. I always look for good used gear. I got my Taylor 615ce barely used (5 months old) for about 25% less than new. There's no shortage of musicians low on cash, so good used gear is out there, it just takes some times, and you'll probably see some junk before you find the prize. Good luck! |
Dr Evil |
May 23 2009, 08:14 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I like my Yamaha 12 that I have had since 94. I bought it on the way to a gig and I liked the sound so much for the price that I often string it 6 as I dont play 12 much. It was $400 and has nice wood and pearl inlays. As for recording gear, I am so out of the loop with that stuff now I cant help you. BUT, I have a rack mounted Sony DAT recorder you can have if you can use it. I also have a Tascam cd-a500 that I can part with.
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Rick_Eberle |
May 23 2009, 08:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 390 Joined: 14-January 04 From: Geelong, Australia Member No.: 1,558 |
Hey, Doc...
If no one wants that DAT, I'd like to buy it... |
jim912928 |
May 23 2009, 11:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,485 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Granger, IN Member No.: 1,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Takamine is a really good guitar for the dollar range it plays in. But, if you could find a used martin for the same value of a new takamine I'd jump on the Martin.
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markb |
May 23 2009, 06:32 PM
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914less :( Group: Members Posts: 5,449 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Nipomo, CA Member No.: 180 Region Association: Central California |
Whichever brand of 12 string you decide on, make sure the truss rod is good, because you'll be tightening it at least once a year from the string tension of the 12. Always tune a 12 string a full note down, and use a capo to help with the tension. I'm really partial to my Ovation 12, since they make a special neck for them that can be tuned to pitch & left that way. I'm also very partial to the "Gibson/Epiphone" 12 string SG singleneck I built. Since Gibson never built one, and I wanted one, I built it myself. I can't even bear to take it apart to paint it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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jimtab |
May 24 2009, 04:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
Guild 12s are nice.....maybe pricey tho......
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crash914 |
May 24 2009, 04:58 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
all great ideas...keep them coming..thanks,
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grasshopper |
May 24 2009, 11:45 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
I personally like the Washburn J28SDL 12 string. Its a little pricey but its a great guitar, nice and loud, great action and looks great too. I got mine off of musicians friend. Check there they have the best prices
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Dr Evil |
May 28 2009, 12:35 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Dont buy anything yet. I have someone who may be able to help, but I need to see if he can first (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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crash914 |
May 28 2009, 02:15 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Kool....Give me a call and we can discuss....
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Dr Evil |
May 28 2009, 05:32 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
My agent says you have been handled (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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crash914 |
May 28 2009, 05:35 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
ok, I don't know if I should bend over or what?
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Dr Evil |
May 28 2009, 06:09 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I guess he hasn't contacted you yet. He will.
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crash914 |
May 28 2009, 06:10 PM
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its a mystery to me Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 17-March 03 From: Marriottsville, MD Member No.: 434 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
he did...got handled...
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IronHillRestorations |
May 29 2009, 10:56 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,732 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
If you want the 12 string sound, just get a chorus pedal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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hot_shoe914 |
May 29 2009, 09:00 PM
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on ramp passer Group: Members Posts: 3,802 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Earle, Ar. Member No.: 8,354 Region Association: None |
If you want the 12 string sound, just get a chorus pedal! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) I know very little to nothing about guitars but I was in the Gibson factory and museum in Memphis this afternoon. Lot of nice items there. Even took the time to watch them building them. |
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