1970 914-6 Project on thesamba, Not mine, no relation... |
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1970 914-6 Project on thesamba, Not mine, no relation... |
2mAn |
Jan 23 2022, 01:03 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/det....php?id=2519436
1970 914/6 Race Car Project( Cal Rust Free ) Price: 17000. 1970 914/6 PORCHE RACE CAR PROJECT • Sought after Tangerine color • Includes rust-free complete (less engine/ transmission) 1970,914/4 ( the car above) rolling chassis (same color) NEVER WRECKED PERFECT GAPS/PANELS • Paperwork for 914/6, copy of original sales receipt (Bill of Sale) from ROSEMEAD, SO Cal Porsche VW salvage yard, and current lien sale papers • The physical remains of 914/6 All benchmarks, bulkhead, aluminum plate,RIGHT FENDER WELL, windshield VIN, door jamb sticker and all important hidden trunk chassis number • Salvage car was Tangerine same as the above donor car HAVE FRONT BUMPER and as you see all the unique small trim parts are on the car from1970 new 914/6 motor mount in pics the hell hole in pics easy repair {MOSTLY TRAY WORK} but better remount batt in front or reartrunk If you have been waiting to build for a worthwhile race project, here it is,,,,, The package is sold complete, as PARTS ONLY! WITH PAPERWORK ABOVE questions ,pics, ?? CALL OR TEXT |
Cairo94507 |
Jan 23 2022, 01:58 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,741 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I appreciate the OP posting this from the Samba site. Though the seller (Samba listing) does not come out and say it, he is obviously offering this rust-free 4-cylinder chassis along with a complete set of 914-6 VIN numbers so someone could make the 4 chassis a 6 chassis. Down the road, some poor enthusiast is going to be ripped off. Buyer beware. Personally, I think that is Fraud. I have emailed the administrator for TheSamba.com and alerted him to this and requested they pull that ad.
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73-914 |
Jan 23 2022, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None |
I appreciate the OP posting this from the Samba site. Though the seller (Samba listing) does not come out and say it, he is obviously offering this rust-free 4-cylinder chassis along with a complete set of 914-6 VIN numbers so someone could make the 4 chassis a 6 chassis. Down the road, some poor enthusiast is going to be ripped off. Buyer beware. Personally, I think that is Fraud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
carr914 |
Jan 23 2022, 05:47 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,516 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
George will probably buy it and rip someone off
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2mAn |
Jan 23 2022, 06:11 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
Yea definitely seemed shady
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EdwardBlume |
Jan 24 2022, 09:13 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Take a $1000 roller and add the cut out VIN tags of a wrecked (assuming) 914/6 and poof -$17,000. All while saving yourself the trouble of commuting fraud.
I’m all for rebuilding special cars, but c’mon, what you really have is a metal ashtray. |
Cairo94507 |
Jan 24 2022, 09:36 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,741 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I received an email last night from TheSamba.com site administrator telling me he would look at the ad and make a determination. This morning the ad is still up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif)
If that is the standard TheSamba.com has for their Classifieds I will no longer be on their site. That ad should have been removed immediately. |
lalee914 |
Jan 24 2022, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 13-February 13 From: Georgetown, DE Member No.: 15,521 Region Association: North East States |
Does anyone know the VIN of the /6 that they are offering with this roller? While we're at it, does anyone know the VIN of the donor car?
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rhodyguy |
Jan 24 2022, 10:12 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
What a weird ad. I had to read it twice. So, you pay $17k the priviledge of buying a hulk, with visible rust, with some bits from a 6 to perform some obviously fraudulent and illegal act? 6 build and swap, paint and all that goes with that? So, 60k+ all in? Bonus, you would have to go fetch it. That's a $500 chassis to me. Maybe.
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73-914 |
Jan 24 2022, 10:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None |
What a weird ad. I had to read it twice. So, you pay $17k the priviledge of buying a hulk, with visible rust, with some bits from a 6 to perform some obviously fraudulent and illegal act? 6 build and swap, paint and all that goes with that? So, 60k+ all in? Bonus, you would have to go fetch it. That's a $500 chassis to me. Maybe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
mate914 |
Jan 24 2022, 12:32 PM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
He would have been better off showing what is left of the 914-6 and asking 17K. Having no title is the big RED FLAG!
Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Jan 24 2022, 02:10 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
A pretty nice car showed up in Washington. The frunk was nicely covered with perlon. Upon exposing the #s stamped on the wheelwell, the numbers didn't match the rest of the car. Scrap.
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bretth |
Jan 24 2022, 02:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
There is no actual pic of a -6 in the ad at all.
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rhodyguy |
Jan 24 2022, 02:54 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,076 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Nothing escapes the keen eyesight on 914world.
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2mAn |
Jan 25 2022, 12:08 PM
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trying to see how long I can go without a 914 Group: Members Posts: 487 Joined: 14-November 13 From: Westchester (Los Angeles) Member No.: 16,644 Region Association: Southern California |
someone close should try to see it in person and get the VIN
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Cairo94507 |
Jan 27 2022, 08:46 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,741 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I just emailed the Samba administrator again, as the ad is still up. His email is everettb@thesamba.com. I restated my position that this ad perpetuates fraud by selling a 4-cylinder chassis along with a set of 6-cylinder chassis VIN numbers. The fact the 6 VIN numbers are not listed really makes it obvious that is what he is offering to someone. People like this need to be taken out back.
Here is the reply I received from Everettb: I agree that could happen but we allow people to sell VIN #s, etc if they have all the paperwork/title/etc. It's the same as someone selling a pan with title and then using it to register a Dune Buggy, which is illegal in a lot of places. I'm going to ask for people's opinions on the site. If he was actually selling a fake/misrepresented car then YES, I would remove it. |
brubou |
Jan 28 2022, 11:10 AM
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Bruce Bouchard Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 29-February 16 From: West Bradford, PA Member No.: 19,716 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Everettb contradicts himself as he states "... we allow people to sell VIN #s, etc if they have all the paperwork/title"
The ad clearly states the 6's VIN's only come with a Bill of Sale, which if we're being honest is really little to no paperwork. |
mepstein |
Jan 28 2022, 11:21 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,260 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Everettb contradicts himself as he states "... we allow people to sell VIN #s, etc if they have all the paperwork/title" The ad clearly states the 6's VIN's only come with a Bill of Sale, which if we're being honest is really little to no paperwork. A bill of sale only records that money was paid for a product or service. It doesn't validate the item. I could charge $10 for Michael's car and give the person a bill of sale but it doesn't show or transfer ownership. Though maybe it does document the fraud? If I was the Samba, I wouldn't want it on my site. |
brubou |
Jan 28 2022, 04:35 PM
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Bruce Bouchard Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 29-February 16 From: West Bradford, PA Member No.: 19,716 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Everettb contradicts himself as he states "... we allow people to sell VIN #s, etc if they have all the paperwork/title" The ad clearly states the 6's VIN's only come with a Bill of Sale, which if we're being honest is really little to no paperwork. A bill of sale only records that money was paid for a product or service. It doesn't validate the item. I could charge $10 for Michael's car and give the person a bill of sale but it doesn't show or transfer ownership. Though maybe it does document the fraud? If I was the Samba, I wouldn't want it on my site. That was my point, a Bill of Sale ISN'T paperwork I was being kind saying "little to no" |
Cairo94507 |
Jan 31 2022, 10:28 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,741 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
I absolutely agree. In this instance, it appears possible TheSamba.Com and now Everettb (as he now has knowledge of this FS ad and did not pull it) are perpetuating fraud. Of course, if some inexperienced 914-6 buyer ends up with that car and discovers the VIN swap fraud, should it happen, which is a crime, I would think TheSamba.Com and Everettb may also be on the hook for monetary damages. Foolish of TheSamba.Com to allow this ad to stand.
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