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> Show me your wings!, ...Papa Smurf's getting more power.
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post Oct 12 2011, 08:17 PM
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300 RWHP - gonna be a fun in a 1800 lb car, huh?!

so...thoughts on downforce? I'm gonna need a way to keep Papa planted. Need some ideas of a wing/splitter.

Pictures? Options?

Here's a picture of Papa Smurf:

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post Oct 12 2011, 08:28 PM
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GT Racing has a good 914 wing system.
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post Oct 12 2011, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Oct 12 2011, 10:28 PM) *

GT Racing has a good 914 wing system.

Really? I never found anything on their website.
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post Oct 12 2011, 09:54 PM
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They definately do - Their Uprights are a little Crude though

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post Oct 12 2011, 10:03 PM
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Here are a few to ponder (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

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post Oct 13 2011, 05:10 AM
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post Oct 13 2011, 10:38 AM
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rename this the ultimate 914 wing collection
all these examples are flying in clean air above the stream
be ready to make spring changes again
Has anyone ever studied teh rudder effect that a wide upright might have at speed?
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post Oct 13 2011, 10:39 AM
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No a great picture of the wing but one of my favorite 914s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Oct 13 2011, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Oct 13 2011, 12:38 PM) *

all these examples are flying in clean air above the stream
be ready to make spring changes again

Good points.

My first race at CMP in a few weeks will be wingless, so we'll see how it goes. I have to balance functionality with looks - Nadine doesn't want the 'kid ricer erector set' look. And hey, gotta do what she wants.....she makes all the money in the family. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

We were thinking of using a 996 cup wing. Size is good, and fairly available. Besides, it was designed by Porsche, so you know a lot of research went into it. That was the recommendation of Autometrics...

The two silver ones above have my body kit too I think...

I like the side intakes and front cooler air over the hood in the # 286 above
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post Oct 13 2011, 12:32 PM
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996 cup wing is designed to fly in the slip stream (dirty air). some rules limit wing height due to the obvious advantage that clean air offers. that 996 wing is a serious engineering feat. I think they were limited on surface area also. clean air wing design is simple when compared to a successful low wing design

that air exit type is well proven in 917, GT40 ect...I want to do my v8 radiator exit that way

Roger's wing is huge AND he runs a Gurney flap, wow. notice how flat he runs the angle of incedence while 286, 13 and 170 run a steep angle. when we measured force I was astonished at how quickly it ramps up above 120 mph even with little incedence.

who's rule book do you build to?
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post Oct 13 2011, 12:42 PM
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PCA club racing GT class.... i.e. displacement to weight. All else is basically free...

I know the air exit is a good idea. I've just been leery about cutting into a carbon fiber hood... And I need to change the oil cooler set up...
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post Oct 13 2011, 12:54 PM
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Go big or go home.....

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post Oct 13 2011, 03:38 PM
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Of the pics shown here so far, I think I would try to emulate some of the designs used with car #80 or #998. The adjustable angle of attack is likely to be something you will want (easier than changing springs). And you will certainly want the wing up in the clean air. But balance with a good splitter will be important.

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post Oct 14 2011, 07:01 AM
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isnt 80 the v8 guy that shows up at willow alot? same look but I dont recall the stripe
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post Oct 14 2011, 08:03 AM
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Just buy a few cans and build your own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 14 2011, 09:48 AM
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Great wing. Check out the single cross member.

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post Oct 15 2011, 10:34 AM
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that wing is huge...how much does it weigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 15 2011, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Oct 15 2011, 09:34 AM) *

that wing is huge...how much does it weigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



It was CF, so not much. The upstands were alumimum.

Don't have the car anymore, so can give you an exact weight.
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post Oct 15 2011, 02:33 PM
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that wing poke is aimed at Ury914
the beast wing is reasonable looking
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post Oct 15 2011, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Oct 15 2011, 01:33 PM) *

that wing poke is aimed at Ury914
the beast wing is reasonable looking


My wing weighs less than yo momma.
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