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| tat2dphreak |
 Oct 15 2009, 08:40 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya  Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region   |
QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 15 2009, 09:31 PM)  On a side note, my engine VIN is W0 060402 which according to my short research would be for a 1971 car. Mine is a 1970, built in March of 1970. Could it be the original motor or definitely not. I know it's a 1911cc car so perhaps a PO just built up another engine instead of the original? W engine code is a 1.7, early... so that's probably the original case, and if it's a 1911, the PO probably just slapped 96mm pistons in when he rebuilt it. W was used in 70 too I believe, my first 72 also had a 'W' - domed piston. |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 15 2009, 09:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
According to p914.com 1970 engine were up to W0 057460 and 1971 started with
W0 057461. That's why I'm wondering about my 1970 with W0 060402 QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Oct 15 2009, 10:40 PM) QUOTE(kenshapiro2002 @ Oct 15 2009, 09:31 PM) On a side note, my engine VIN is W0 060402 which according to my short research would be for a 1971 car. Mine is a 1970, built in March of 1970. Could it be the original motor or definitely not. I know it's a 1911cc car so perhaps a PO just built up another engine instead of the original? W engine code is a 1.7, early... so that's probably the original case, and if it's a 1911, the PO probably just slapped 96mm pistons in when he rebuilt it. W was used in 70 too I believe, my first 72 also had a 'W' - domed piston. |
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| type47 |
Oct 16 2009, 08:22 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
COA may list engine serial number but as much time has passed since the car was first owned, PO's may have made many changes (ie, carbs as you have). I don't car what the poster said about you being a post whore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I enjoy learning from your posts. I did check your profile and saw you are at like 6.5 posts per day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . I see so many new owners get real excited about the cars (it seems to me) then sorta fade away.
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 09:10 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yeah...gotten a few rocks thrown at me (even my new buddy who is in on this thread frequently), but I'm not going anywhere. I've owned at least a dozen "enthusiast" cars over the past 40 years (I'm 56) including a Lotus Europa I did a frame off on, mid year Vettes, an early Miata, Super 90, GT6, first Mini Cooper "S" imported into MD in 2002 and even a 914 about 15 years ago that was a daily driver. Always a few bikes too (two Sportsters at present). That 914 always came back as the best overall car I'd ever had...almost the best handling (Europa took that and maybe the MINI), incredible carrying capacity, super interior room, secure convertible with ingenious stowage, super looks once you throw on flares (just MNSHO). Had to get another one, and was going to add carbs (hated my 914 FI), flares and some nice wheels and tires, and get rid of the vinyl on the sail panes. Found my baby with all of that already done for only $6,600, beautifully painted and 95% rustfree. I'm in love.
 QUOTE(type47 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM) COA may list engine serial number but as much time has passed since the car was first owned, PO's may have made many changes (ie, carbs as you have). I don't car what the poster said about you being a post whore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I enjoy learning from your posts. I did check your profile and saw you are at like 6.5 posts per day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . I see so many new owners get real excited about the cars (it seems to me) then sorta fade away. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Oct 16 2009, 09:13 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I didn't mean post-whore as a bad thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I mean look at my avatar... think of it more as "post porn-star" instead of "post whore" that's how I look at it anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Also, don't care about authenticity. I just thoroughly research the history of my cars...even POs. I have two POs of this car writing to me regularly now and sending me old pictures and tons on information. I also always build a binder of all this information for myself and any future owner. If it were a survivor or original I wouldn't want to modify it which is a blast to me and makes the car a better driver, which is what I want my cars to be. My Europa was so perfect after I finished, I sold it because driving it, and getting it "soiled" made me nuts.
Let's see if I can get her running today. QUOTE(type47 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM) COA may list engine serial number but as much time has passed since the car was first owned, PO's may have made many changes (ie, carbs as you have). I don't car what the poster said about you being a post whore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I enjoy learning from your posts. I did check your profile and saw you are at like 6.5 posts per day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) . I see so many new owners get real excited about the cars (it seems to me) then sorta fade away. |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 09:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Never saw it as a bad thing. I'm enjoying the banter and conversation almost as much as I'm enjoying the car. I'm a post-whore, a Motorcycle whore, a 914 whore, and still a man whore. Whoring rocks!
QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Oct 16 2009, 11:13 AM) I didn't mean post-whore as a bad thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I mean look at my avatar... think of it more as "post porn-star" instead of "post whore" that's how I look at it anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| Gint |
Oct 16 2009, 09:21 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,106 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Sweet lookin 914 BTW. Even though it doesn't run. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Give me a few hours.
QUOTE(Gint @ Oct 16 2009, 11:21 AM) |
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| tat2dphreak |
Oct 16 2009, 10:02 AM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
you better get on it! what, do you take the laptop out there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
btw, when you think about it, you might want to go to a taller velocity stack. I went to the 1 5/8 ones and noticed a difference, and I really need to step up to the 2 1/4" no hurry, but I noticed a difference. |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Nah...just in and out of the house a lot and check my e-mail every time I can. Also running a site for my MC.
So, what difference did you notice with taller stacks? Will I be able to use my same air cleaners?  QUOTE(tat2dphreak @ Oct 16 2009, 12:02 PM) you better get on it! what, do you take the laptop out there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) btw, when you think about it, you might want to go to a taller velocity stack. I went to the 1 5/8 ones and noticed a difference, and I really need to step up to the 2 1/4" no hurry, but I noticed a difference. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Oct 16 2009, 12:01 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
you could probably use the short ones like I got, but probably not the 2 1/4" ones with those. maybe wait until you get taller air cleaners (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I noticed a little smoother idle and punchier acceleration. it basically increases air pressure a little bit, from what I understand |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Here goes. Got everything buttoned back up. The linkages (sorry Mike) dropped right back into the throttle arm hole perfectly. Yeah...I know...I still need to adjust them to perfection. Let the fuel pump work her magic, hit the key, and she fired right up. Only leaks were right at both of the plugs under the fuel filter (could have been the actual fuel lines just running there), but stopped on it's own after a few minutes.
She idled beautifully after a few "burps" and ran for about 3-4 minutes when she just died, like she did the other day before I got into the carbs. This is what happened out on the road and caused me to get into the carbs. After 10 minutes or so, she fired right back up and ran for another few minutes before doing the same. My logic is that this is either not carb related (fuel pump?), since the settings on the carbs were not touched before the "crap out" on the road, and the carbds have now been cleaned, tightened up, floats correctly set, etc. Chime in my bruthas. |
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| jmill |
Oct 16 2009, 12:16 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Velocity stacks straighten out the airflow and that increases velocity. Instead of air swirling around and smashing into itself it gets more of a straight shot through the venturi. The taller the stacks the straighter the shot. I can't see them affecting idle. The idle jet is below the butterfly. They will help once your butterfly opens and your pulling air through the vents. They would have max affect at WOT.
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| jmill |
Oct 16 2009, 12:24 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Turn the key to fire up the pump without starting the car. Does the ticking slow way down once the float bowls are full. Look down the carb and be sure no fuel is leaking out of the mains down the throat. Fire it up. How does the pump sound at idle? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If so make sure it's between 3 and 4 psi.
Did you go through the proceedure for adjusting the mixture screws? |
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| puff adder |
Oct 16 2009, 12:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 9-December 08 From: northern california Member No.: 9,827 Region Association: None |
Check or replace your coil.
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| tat2dphreak |
Oct 16 2009, 12:26 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
are you letting the car get warmed up? with carbs it will probably die a few times if you don't feather the throttle to get it up to temp, then it should idle when it gets warmed up a little.
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| jmill |
Oct 16 2009, 12:27 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
He has a new coil.
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Ticking slows way down once the floats are full. It seems as if the floats are staying full (maybe weren't before the rebuild?) since when I went out now, the fuel pump wasn't even starting out with it's fast clicks...started out slow and stayed slow. When running it was hard to hear, but I think it was maintaining it's slow (once a second?) click.
This time she stayed at idle for ever...didn't want to die out at all.I noticed that the accel jet wasn't squirting at all on the barrel over cylinder #1. I do not have a fuel pressure gauge, and have not done any of the adjustments yet. QUOTE(jmill @ Oct 16 2009, 02:24 PM) Turn the key to fire up the pump without starting the car. Does the ticking slow way down once the float bowls are full. Look down the carb and be sure no fuel is leaking out of the mains down the throat. Fire it up. How does the pump sound at idle? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If so make sure it's between 3 and 4 psi. Did you go through the proceedure for adjusting the mixture screws? |
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| kenshapiro2002 |
Oct 16 2009, 12:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,486 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Already went through the electrical stuff...it's new as are the points, condensor, rotor and cap.
QUOTE(puff adder @ Oct 16 2009, 02:24 PM) Check or replace your coil. |
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