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post Nov 13 2007, 07:56 AM
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The only time I lost teeth on a /6 flywheel was with an OEM Bosch starter (SR68X or Lester 16246).

Rimco repaired the flywheel for $105.00 (new ring gear & surface grind).

And as stated above, "it is the quality of the rebuilder". Most local small shops will do a better job, but cost more than a production rebuilder.

Don't sell the jap starters short .... they are better engineered than Bosch ever thought of.
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post Nov 13 2007, 09:08 AM
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I have the IMI starter and it works great. Install was a little tricky, because the positive battery lug was on top of the starter. So its in between the trunk floor and the starter. But I have none of the above mentioned problems.

FWIW, high torque starters are just Toyota starter motors adapted to other cars. So as far as reliability, the starter should be more reliable than your car. However, the starter may only be as good as the company that adapted the toyota starter motor to your application. Thats why some people may be experiencing problems.
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Actually two manufacturers ... Nippondenso and Hitachi
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post Nov 13 2007, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(jasons @ Nov 13 2007, 07:08 AM) *

I have the IMI starter and it works great. Install was a little tricky, because the positive battery lug was on top of the starter. So its in between the trunk floor and the starter. But I have none of the above mentioned problems.


My connection was on the bottom. (Highperformance USA)
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post Nov 13 2007, 12:31 PM
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I have the one Paul has and it was the one that was NOT goofing up teeth. The other one I am not sure about.
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post Nov 13 2007, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Nov 13 2007, 10:51 AM) *

QUOTE(jasons @ Nov 13 2007, 07:08 AM) *

I have the IMI starter and it works great. Install was a little tricky, because the positive battery lug was on top of the starter. So its in between the trunk floor and the starter. But I have none of the above mentioned problems.


My connection was on the bottom. (Highperformance USA)



I wonder if I put mine in backwards? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) IIRC, it seemed like it would mount either way, but the upwards way made more sense somehow. Maybe the +cable didn't like the run? I may have to revisit that.
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post Nov 13 2007, 02:21 PM
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I haven't had a single problem since replacing the flywheel and installing a new bosch starter. Maybe the Hi torque was a bad install, but the new setup sounds sooo much quieter and starts so much quicker.

I am a happy camper now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If you use the Hi Torque, a shim is what I'd recommend - not washers.
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post Nov 13 2007, 04:07 PM
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http://www.icbm.org/cmgallery/index.php?cat=13
Click on the "HPA Starter" album.

I need to update the album to show the metal spacer. It's a piece of scrap I had, cut like the original spacer, and about the thickness of the washers.
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post Nov 13 2007, 06:56 PM
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The shim is not required with the one that Paul and I have so far as I could tell.
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post Nov 14 2007, 10:40 AM
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Can you guys provide contact information. Thanks.
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post Nov 14 2007, 10:47 AM
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:57 AM
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great discussion!
not to sound dumb but ive had people tell me my car doesnt start at times because my solenoid "sticks"... is $119 cheap enough security to just replace the entire starter? and that new starter has a new solenoid on it correct (noob question)

the ebay listing starter, does it need any kind of spacers or anything, or is it a direct bolt-on? may consider it

anyone elses thoughts on that starter?
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As mentioned in the above threads, it's the same one I bought . Bolt in deal, nothing else needed.
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o.k. you guys hve been running these for awhile now how does the Highperformnance USA
starter work out? good/bad?

so far it sounds like they are good
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post Jun 9 2008, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Nov 11 2007, 07:34 PM) *

See this thread.

I have bought 2 starters from Highperformnance USA. One for my 3.6 and the other for a 383 high compression Chevy in my truck. No problems with either. No goofy noises when cranking, no spacers or washers. Bolt in and go......

Mine came from the same source 2 years ago and has performed wonderfully. I'd purchase the same unit from the same vendor again.
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post Jun 9 2008, 06:35 AM
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I use one (the same model that DrEvil and URY use). When I started my motor on a the bench (without plugs, just to build oil pressure) there were no undue sounds. No dragging or clacking. In fact, everything was so smooth I was not sure if the starter even engaged. I was not sure until I walked around to see the fan turning.

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I put one of the Nippondensos on my car last summer ~ works great, no spacers required.
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Nippondenso is a good company. That's one of the reasons Honda and Toyota have been so successful. They use good parts to keep their engines going.
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