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scotty b
post Mar 17 2010, 05:36 PM
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Mark the group buy king, dropped his car off last week. I will get a good run at it next week, but for now I will post the beginning pics. I pulled his tank to take to the refinishers and OHHHH BOY what 20 years does to gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) More pics to come next week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Since there seems to be very little rust to deal with it will allow me to spend more time than usual on the body and paint work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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championgt1
post Mar 19 2010, 08:46 PM
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post Mar 19 2010, 08:48 PM
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Wow... I know when I had it built it was supposed to be 2.0 with side shifter. So I guess its an early shell , dash and trans, late 1.8 motor and interior. Unless the 2.0 and trans was switched when I took it back to the place that built it when the had it for sale. Sat in their shop for almost a year so they could have swapped motor and trans? I never drove it after shop had it for sale and it was towed to my parents house. Not what I expected!
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post Mar 19 2010, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 19 2010, 10:37 PM) *

Oh boy, what have i done?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Andy


Helped me figure out the truth. I appreciate it.
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:08 PM
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I have a side core I can build for you. PM me and we can talk. I do not have the other stuff, but I may have access to them. I need to check my two local sources.
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:29 PM
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Sounds like maybe the guy in NJ got mixed up and gave Mark the wrong car, a loooooong time ago.
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:30 PM
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Scotty, you have the answer, what do the numbers on the car say?
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post Mar 19 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 19 2010, 11:08 PM) *

I have a side core I can build for you. PM me and we can talk. I do not have the other stuff, but I may have access to them. I need to check my two local sources.


Will do. Thanks, mark
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post Mar 19 2010, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(al weidman @ Mar 19 2010, 11:29 PM) *

Sounds like maybe the guy in NJ got mixed up and gave Mark the wrong car, a loooooong time ago.


Same car I purchased but not same motor and trans. When I left car at shop to try and sell, they added side stripes, painted rockers and valances black (used to be body color) and changed to stock sized tires. They said it would sell better that way. But I did drive the car for 4 years and it is the one they sold me origionally. I know it also had ss heat exchangers so I wonder what is on car now since 2.0 and 1.8 dont mix and match.

I guess we just have to wait and see what Scott says about the vin.
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post Mar 19 2010, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Mar 19 2010, 10:32 PM) *

Nope, engine is a 1.8 block with 40 IDAs on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Lot of carb for a 1.8


Could it be a 1.8 block with 2.0 pistons or whatever combo makes a 2.0?
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post Mar 20 2010, 09:23 AM
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A 1.8 is just bigger pistons and cylinders on a 1.7. I know there are other differences such as Fuel Injection, but a 2.0 has a bigger crank and better heads.
2.0 heads have 3 bolts on the intake, the smaller engines have four bolts on the intake. This is the easiest way to tell if you have a 2.0.
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post Mar 20 2010, 11:13 AM
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Just got off the phone with Scott. He said it had 2 liter heads but is definately a 1.8 block. We'll get motor running again, used to run pretty good. Looks to be a tailshifter trans that was converted to side shift. Trans will be going to Dr. Evil by way of Hershey so we'll get that figured out. I have brand new brakes - calipers, disks, ect. from PMB so we'll figure out if they will work or exchange for early models. Vin on windshield matched front trunk but Scott didn't have a chance to compare with the vin on my title so thats still a mystery.

Still the same car I drove and enjoyed 25 years ago so we'll move forward on getting it back on the road as the new, improved model.
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post Mar 20 2010, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 20 2010, 09:13 AM) *

Just got off the phone with Scott. He said it had 2 liter heads but is definately a 1.8 block. We'll get motor running again, used to run pretty good. Looks to be a tailshifter trans that was converted to side shift. Trans will be going to Dr. Evil by way of Hershey so we'll get that figured out. I have brand new brakes - calipers, disks, ect. from PMB so we'll figure out if they will work or exchange for early models. Vin on windshield matched front trunk but Scott didn't have a chance to compare with the vin on my title so thats still a mystery.

Still the same car I drove and enjoyed 25 years ago so we'll move forward on getting it back on the road as the new, improved model.




At this point, in the VW community we are selling titles with vins and the panel the vin is attached to for things like Rabbits. You can still get every rabbit panel but that cowl panel with the vin.

Folks have welded those into the cars, and gone to state inspectors to pass them as salvage and gotten no funk as long as neither car is stolen.

The car could have been halved together, at least it is clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 20 2010, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(ghuff @ Mar 20 2010, 09:53 AM) *

... at least it is clean (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Well, except for the gas tank..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Mar 20 2010, 12:46 PM
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I knew the tank would be bad. 20 years of sitting would do that to any tank but I think the rest of the car will be ok. I told Scott I don't want to do it if it needs major work. No long replacement, major panel work, ect. If it needs that, I'll put it away and buy a car that's already been redone. I don't think its worth putting big money in these cars when there are good ones available for less than cost of good restoration. Even though the vin may be screwed up it still has sentimental value but only to a point. If I could get the flared six with the 3.4 that was advertised a week ago for an affordable $, it would be a hard choice. No, it would be easy, i'd take the six!
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post Mar 20 2010, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Mar 19 2010, 07:37 PM) *

Oh boy, what have i done?


Told and lived the truth as you usually do, Sir.
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post Mar 20 2010, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 20 2010, 10:46 AM) *

I knew the tank would be bad. 20 years of sitting would do that to any tank but I think the rest of the car will be ok. I told Scott I don't want to do it if it needs major work. No long replacement, major panel work, ect. If it needs that, I'll put it away and buy a car that's already been redone. I don't think its worth putting big money in these cars when there are good ones available for less than cost of good restoration. Even though the vin may be screwed up it still has sentimental value but only to a point. If I could get the flared six with the 3.4 that was advertised a week ago for an affordable $, it would be a hard choice. No, it would be easy, i'd take the six!


I understand
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Mar 20 2010, 11:46 AM) *

I knew the tank would be bad. 20 years of sitting would do that to any tank but I think the rest of the car will be ok. I told Scott I don't want to do it if it needs major work. No long replacement, major panel work, ect. If it needs that, I'll put it away and buy a car that's already been redone. I don't think its worth putting big money in these cars when there are good ones available for less than cost of good restoration. Even though the vin may be screwed up it still has sentimental value but only to a point. If I could get the flared six with the 3.4 that was advertised a week ago for an affordable $, it would be a hard choice. No, it would be easy, i'd take the six!


You will always put more money in a restoration that you can buy one for, even the 356 models which are now out of sight.
However the joy of seeing a car that you have lived with for 25 years coming back, is never matched.
The car is definitely a 70 71 body that someone "fixed up" notice the over spray on the front strut clamps. Wonder what color it was originally? I doubt that it has been clipped. The rear jack holder is in the left rear like it should be on 70 71 and 72 models, and the spray around the rear shock towers is very sparse just like 70 71 models. Someone obviously welded in brackets for the passenger seat to move, and one can tell by the oil filler that someone was piecing the engine together with some very early model parts (no pcv)
I would say a perfect candidate for a GT replica. PLUS the king of group buys will have himself a clone of an original 914-6 body as the 70 and 71 models were identical. How about a six conversion?????
PLUS since the serial numbers were obviously already switched, I am sure some California guy will sell you a set of six numbers and a title (I only say that because 75% of all six production shipped to the U.S. went to California!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Mar 20 2010, 02:06 PM
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Thanks for looking it over with a trained eye. I know so little about these cars now, it's no wonder that they were able to fool me when I was 18. Not intrested in doing a vin swap. I culd see it for a wrecked race car but not just to say it's something that it's not. I'm not selling so the vin doesn't matter to me. Would love to put a 6 in the car but it would have to be from a wrecked car that someone sells cheap. I don't know what peices to buy and it's too much to piece it part by part. If I can't get a 6 cheap, I still plan to put a Raby motor in the car.
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Fix the tank and you'll be back on the road in no time. Now about those carburettors... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post Mar 20 2010, 03:38 PM
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If I can convert 40's to 44's then I will use them for a Raby build since Jake told me the old Italian made Webbers are good to have. If not, when I do a motor switch, I will sell. But right now I want to get car running with existing motor.
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