NEW 914 bumpers, "Harrington Group" Options

[siverson]

He's selling them on SF Craigs List for $1495 EACH! $3k Is too much for bumpers, at least for me.

I hadn't seen that ad until today. Here it is:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/1843396509.html

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/dio314.diomedestorage.com-654-1279171196.1.jpg)

-Steve

[EdwardBlume]

I had my stock black bumpers filled straightened and chromed for $700. I would think for 2 stainless bumpers for $1500, you got a good deal....

Dare I say... group buy?

[johannes]

VAt is a tax on every step of manufacturing so you will pay the tax on anything you buy made in a nation that has a VAT. the metal was VAt taxed when refined from ore, if made into rolled sheet aat a different factory it gets a VAT tax then, then when formed to a bumper it gets a VAT tax, then when it is chromed, the chrome guy ads more VAT tax. it is simply passed on to the end user in the purchase price.

keep that in mind when the socialists try to implemt it here. one more hidden tax the people have to pay, yuck!

In France it is mandatory to advertise the price with VAT (no hidden charges). The shop will then pay the VAT back to the state. When I visited USA I also had to pay taxes on everything I bought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
VAT is not the same for all items or services. For food it's only 5.5% but for manufactured items it it's 19,6

BTW , VAT has been invented by the french (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax

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[siverson]

> I would think for 2 stainless bumpers for $1500, you got a good deal....

I don't think I'll ever consider 2 bumpers for $1500 a "good deal", but I'm ok with it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-Steve

[Tom_T]

He's selling them on SF Craigs List for $1495 EACH! $3k Is too much for bumpers, at least for me.

I hadn't seen that ad until today. Here it is:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/pts/1843396509.html

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/dio314.diomedestorage.com-654-1279171196.1.jpg)

-Steve

So is this ad by Rich B at HPH, or somebody who is buying the ones you got Steve & marking them up 50-100% for the fools on CL???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

... are they even the same SS bumpers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I'd actually seen this ad repeatedly on 914club's CL notifications to me, before I saw the other eBay one with the set for $1500, & now I'm wondering..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[McMark]

That ad is absolutely HPH. I'd recognize that background anywhere.

[EdwardBlume]

That ad is absolutely HPH. I'd recognize that background anywhere.

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[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

yes beautiful and expensive.

I just saw these advertised on eBay:

http://www.groupharrington.com/bumper/Porsche_914.asp

Anyone ever seen one?

-Steve

[Tom_T]

That ad is absolutely HPH. I'd recognize that background anywhere.

So then, is he buying the Vietnam made ones & adding a huge mark-up, or sourcing them elsewhere at a higher wholesale cost to HPH? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

BTW - then HPH is also advertizing SS Rockers on CL with pix in front of that same garage door. You can probably find the ad in the 914club NW or SF CL listings.

[windforfun]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Someone check with Rich at HPH. Does he stock them? May be an option.

I'm really looking forward to seeing those bumpers Steve. We need a full report.

He's selling them on SF Craigs List for $1495 EACH! $3k Is too much for bumpers, at least for me.

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I've seen them. They're nice, but too $$$ for me.

[Tom_T]

yes beautiful and expensive.

I just saw these advertised on eBay:

http://www.groupharrington.com/bumper/Porsche_914.asp

Anyone ever seen one?

-Steve

At $1500 for the pair F & R = $750 each, which was about the last price for OEM chrome ones new IIRC?

I was recently quoted (in CA) $800-1000 each to CW-10 restore & 3-step rechrome OEM ones! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
- so if these are new, SS & comparable quality, workmanship, fit, etc. - $750 apiece sounds like a bargain!

... I'll just need to see what they'll add to the cost to add the 73-74 holes & backbraces for the bumper gaurds - IF they will even to that!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

<edit PS> - I just emailed them for the added cost for the 73-74 F & 74 R bumper guard/tits holes & back braces, & a quote all-in with shipping for my 73 set. I'll post the info here when I hear something, but will probably wait to purchase pending my seeing some on a 914 & talking to whomever installed them to make sure they fit/look right.

[Tom_T]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Someone check with Rich at HPH. Does he stock them? May be an option.

I'm really looking forward to seeing those bumpers Steve. We need a full report.

He's selling them on SF Craigs List for $1495 EACH! $3k Is too much for bumpers, at least for me.

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I've seen them. They're nice, but too $$$ for me.

To be clear - at the Harrington website they're selling them for what equates to about $1500-1600 for BOTH the front & rear set - not each.

F is the 70-72 "no tits" style & R is the 70-73 "no tits" style. Mods to add for tits is TBD.

[tod914]

Last time I spoke with the Triumph owner, he said they are very accomodating and will add holes, not add holes, what ever you want.

[Tom_T]

Last time I spoke with the Triumph owner, he said they are very accomodating and will add holes, not add holes, what ever you want.

I just emailed Harrington for a quote on the 73 & 74 tit mods & will post here when I hear back.

[Cupomeat]

Did you check out their 1/2 scale 356 cars?

Very cute toy. I wonder how much they are?

[siverson]

> Did you check out their 1/2 scale 356 cars?

Those are pretty neat. Although too nice for my 18 month old. She'd destroy it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Update: I received an email that they need 2 extra weeks to make my bumpers because of my request for no front license plate holes and no rear tow plug hole. So... it's still 4-5 weeks out. Stay tuned...

-Steve

[Tom_T]

OK Update -

For those of you with 73 or 74 914s with chrome bumpers & wanting to keep the OE front &/or rear Bumper Guards/"Tits" - here's what Harrington said it will cost to do the bumpers to fit the "titties":

Front 73-74 MY Bumper w/ Bumper Guard Mounting Holes & Brackets:
Adding 2 back braces behind the "tits" & 2 mounting stud holes each side L & R will add $50.00 to the total "sale" cost of $1579.00 for both F & R bumpers in polished SS.

Rear 74 MY Bumper w/ Bumper Guard Mounting Holes:
Extra holes apparently can be accommodated at no additional cost (same as Steve's "hole deletes), because the rear bumpers' mounting brackets also line up with the rear tits, & an extra set of brackets isn't needed.

So if we're understanding each other & communicating clearly with each other in the emails below, a F & R set/pair of polished SS bumpers for either 73 or 74 MY will cost at their current price $1629.00 (instead of $1579.00 for 71-72 style tit-less bumpers). As with Steve's set deleting the license plate bracket mounting & tow hook holes, these extras will take a few weeks delay in manufacturing & shipping them (unless they later decide to carry both types in stock in the future).

NOTE that their rep. Vivian says this price(s) includes ALL shipping & handling, taxes, VAT & duties - as a complete to your door price for 2 bumpers!

In my email to her below (2nd down in thread), I'd included these pix of the 73-74 F & 74 R chrome bumpers which Tom Blizick was selling a while back (Craig/CAMP914 got them IIRC, I include more pix for her ref. but this shows them both F&B sides) - & added here FYI so you can see the differences to the "plain" bumpers:



Also FYI - here is the extra rubber buffer pad that go on the F bumper's tit-braces in the pix above, with a sketch Tom B did of them in case we need Mark W./Mikey914 to make repro replacements for them.



Here's the full email exchange FYI -

From: Stainless Steel Bumpers <shine@groupharrington.com> [Add to Address Book]
To: 'Thomas T
Subject: RE: 914 Bumpers Question
Date: Jul 22, 2010 4:17 AM
Attachments: image001.jpg image002.jpg image003.jpg image004.jpg

Hello Tom,

Thank you for your pictures.

It would cost $50 to add the 2 brackets on the back and drill the necessary holes.

What we need now is an extensive set of dimensions so we can build and position the brackets perfectly.

Since you have a non salvageable bumper, would it be possible that you cut the brackets and send it to us? It will be of great help for us if we can work from an actual sample.

Best regards,

Vivian

Vivian Baretge
Sales & Marketing Director
www.groupharrington.com
www.isettashop.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/harringtongroup
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21038833@N05/
Tel: +44 121 288 1250
Fax: +44 122 543 0271


From: Thomas T
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:31 AM
To: shine@groupharrington.com
Subject: Re: 914 Bumpers Question

Hi Vivian,

I've attached some pictures of another 1974 914 owner's bumpers which he was selling for your reference. Unfortunately my 73 front bumper is pretty mangled from an accident, so I'll have to get another one from which to do the measurements you've requested.

However, perhaps your engineering/design &/or production staff can give me an estimate of the additional cost for the extra back braces for the front bumper guards. The braces look to be a bit smaller & different shape, & the black pieces on the back are a rubber pad which I can source elsewhere (maybe still from Porsche).

It appears from the attached pictures that the rear guards line up with the existing mounting brackets (i.e.: with no added brackets), so based on your info. below the "extra" holes could be added at no extra cost.

I do have the front rubber guards for my restoration (3 pairs actually), and there is a vendor on 914world/914rubber who will be making reproductions, & he already makes excellent repro rubber top pads for the front & rear bumpers, if your customers are looking for those.

Thanx for your help on this.

Cheers!
Tom T
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On 7/16/2010 3:25 AM, Stainless Steel Bumpers wrote:

Hello Mr T ,

Thank you very much for your email.

I'm Vivian, Sales and Marketing Director of Group Harrington.

Yes, it is certainly possible to modify our bumpers so they can accept US specs bumpers guards. However we do not have the capacity at the moment to produce the rubbers guards themselves.

The price for these modifications will depend on their complexity. If you just need a few additional holes to be drilled, we will do them at no cost; we will just need the exact location and dimensions of the holes

It would be great if you could send us pictures of your original bumpers without the guards, so we have a clear overview of the work to do.

The good news is that our Porsche 914 bumpers are on stock and on sale!

The full set (front and rear bumpers) is available for only $1579 (instead of $1898) INCLUDING DHL shipping to Orange, tax and duties.

The price I'm quoting is the final price for you. They will be ready for shipping around one week after reception of your payment.

Of course if we have to do extensive modifications to the bumpers the price and delivery time might be different.

We offer bank transfer, credit card and PayPal as payment methods; you will find all the details below.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any question!

Best regards,

Vivian

Vivian Baretge
Sales & Marketing Director
www.groupharrington.com
www.isettashop.com
http://www.youtube.com/user/harringtongroup
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21038833@N05/
Tel: +44 121 288 1250
Fax: +44 122 543 0271

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If you wish to pay by credit card or debit card, you can send us your card details by email or fax +44 1225 430271.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas T
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:34 AM
To: info@groupharrington.com
Subject: 914 Bumpers Question

Harrington Group
Mr. Nathan Redfearn

Dear Mr. Redfearn:

In the USA the 914's for the 1973 model year came equipped with extra
black "rubber" bumper guards left & right on the front bumpers - with a
pair of horizontal screw/stud mounting holes & back braces similar to
those used to mount the bumpers to the body on the backside behind the
guards. The 1974 MY had those in front, plus a set of them on the rear
bumpers as well. By production numbers, the 73 & 74 MYs represented
about 40-50% of the total production of all 113,000+ 914s between 70-76,
with about 60% imported to the USA (perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 of all 914s).

For those of us interested in doing a concours &/or period correct
restoration of our beloved 914s, we want the correct bumpers with the
guards. In my case I have and early-73 MY 914-2.0 (marketed as the
914SC over there in GB & 914S here initially).

Is it possible to produce your stainless steel bumpers modified for
those guards? If so, what will that add to the "base price" for each
bumper - adding 4 properly located mounting holes left & right to each
bumper & adding 4 properly located 2 additional proper back braces
behind those pairs of holes (note that the back braces have similar
holes to the mounting brackets, into which a rubber isolating pad is
fitted) - quoting front & then rear separately (so I can share this info
with my fellow 73 & 74 owners)?

Can you also provide me with a specific quote given your current special
offer for the bumper set - preferably with the modified front bumper as
an added cost, including shipping to my address below, plus any taxes,
VAT, duties, etc.

Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter.

Cheers!
Tom T
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[dem]

Am I correct in if I DON'T care about being period correct, I can go with hole-less bumpers on my 1973?

$1500 delivered doesn't sound too bad to me, for non-rusting/perfect. Plus, I have no guilt with my bastardized -6 conversion putting on something non-stock.

Looking forward to hearing your report when you receive them.

[Tom_T]

Am I correct in if I DON'T care about being period correct, I can go with hole-less bumpers on my 1973?

$1500 delivered doesn't sound too bad to me, for non-rusting/perfect. Plus, I have no guilt with my bastardized -6 conversion putting on something non-stock.

Looking forward to hearing your report when you receive them.

Yes - Seems like a great price at just under $800 apiece for new SS bumpers all in - $1579 for both!

No reason not to go as is with their bumpers - for either 70-72, Euro 73-74 look, or backdated tit-less bumpers, & for your 73 6-conversion! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Post your pix & let us know how they fit relative to OEM ones - once you get yours!
Steve went without the license bracket holes up front & no tow hook hole rear, which delayed his delivery a bit, but didn't cost extra. So I'm not sure of your meaning of hole-less.

[Kansas 914]

Steve went without the license bracket holes up front & no tow hook hole rear, which delayed his delivery a bit, but didn't cost extra.

Thank you Steve for blazing this trail. I will pull the trigger as soon as you say you are happy with your purchase. I too want to go without front license plate and rear tow hook holes.