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> Throttle cable for carbs, How do you run it
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:04 PM
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Awesome! I get it now. Thanks for the info.
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post Nov 30 2007, 10:17 PM
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Bill,

REALLY NICE pictures and explanation! Is there a way to preserve them for posterity?

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post Nov 30 2007, 11:58 PM
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You know that Triad West makes a kick ass linkage for the four? I had it on my four after I had to replace the other a fwe times. The hex bar sucks on those, and the Triad is sweet. The installation is very easy as well.
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:41 AM
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this one works well for me. 3/8"thick stock. the hole for the cable sheath end is countersunk and the cable is nice and secure. if you get the height of the hole right, it's a nice straight pull. my cable is routed thru the engine tin and and a grommit. maybe a terry cable, can't remember.

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post Dec 1 2007, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(bperry @ Nov 30 2007, 08:04 PM) *

Anybody know who makes this one?



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No idea, but that's a picture of the motor in my first 914. I bought the car back after it ate a cam lobe and took that entire dual carb setup and put it on the zambeziteen. I'm running it right now.
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post Dec 1 2007, 11:34 AM
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that's a very inventive puke can in post #20. judging by the mess, it works very well too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

btw. the linkage i pictured is the Triad unit.

keeping the linkage on the inside arm (pushing down to open the plates) helps to maintain a more verticle aspect on the threaded drop rods.

in case you haven't noticed, the AA kit is comprised of the bracket and a wheel for a thermosat bellow wire. saw that setup in camarillo in 05'.

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post Dec 1 2007, 11:36 AM
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It was DPO job. Surprisingly enough, it got the job done.
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post Dec 1 2007, 12:03 PM
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I just got a reply from AA about the bracket:

Aaron,

The bracket kit is 95.00

Thanks,
Steve

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Subject: 914 Parts Question

Any chance you guys would sell just the bracket from your new F.I. kit?
That's a pretty trick way to run the throttle cable and I all ready have
the CB Performance linkage and Dellorto carbs.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-...-1196476240.jpg


Let me know.

Thanks.

-Aaron
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post Dec 1 2007, 12:27 PM
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Update:

OK. There has been a lot of talk on 914world.com about the bracket. I'd be in line to buy one to retrofit my existing linkage if you guys decide to sell it.

-Aaron

Steve and Janie G wrote:
> The kit includes more than just the bracket that is why it is called the
> linkage kit. Unfortunately you have to purchase the kit to get the bracket.
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post Dec 1 2007, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 1 2007, 11:34 AM) *

that's a very inventive puke can in post #20. judging by the mess, it works very well too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

btw. the linkage i pictured is the Triad unit.

keeping the linkage on the inside arm (pushing down to open the plates) helps to maintain a more verticle aspect on the threaded drop rods.

in case you haven't noticed, the AA kit is comprised of the bracket and a wheel for a thermosat bellow wire. saw that setup in camarillo in 05'.

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I've also noticed that on the CB kit a true vertical geometry can't really be achieved
when using the drop rods on the outside.
The problem is that you can't quite move the crossbar arms over far enough to get
them to line up vertically. The arms tend to hit the air cleaners first.
You can still make it work but it doesn't line up quite as well as when the
rods on the inside.
As I was recently looking over the CB linkages for some sort of throttle bracket,
I noticed that all the photos on CB site show the rods on the inside, except this
one: Click for CB linkage Picture
If you look closely at this picture from CB, it looks like they are using a heim
joint extension on the crossbar arm.
CB sells them under part#3395 and #3396. One 3395 is included in the
914 kit to space the drop link out to miss the factory carb shaft arm.
If you used 2 more on the hex bar arms, you would pickup additional horizontal
width which should be enough to line up the outside drop rods.
Which looks like what they did in that photo.



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post Dec 1 2007, 04:35 PM
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note that's a t-1. for it to work in that configuration in our cars, you would have to mount the linkage on the rear of the carbs. for a front linkage mount you could place one spacer on the top heim and one on the bottom if you switch the drops to of the inside holes on the throttle shaft arm. the lever arm on the bar would have to be in the upper position. my drops are not in the absolute verticle plane but much closer than the cb setup pictured. without spacers. if i placed them on the lower heim joints, the bottoms would be pulled in further.
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post Feb 19 2008, 10:48 AM
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Sorry to resurrect a thread, but those who want to know how to run throttle cable mounts, like myself, enjoy this thread!

I made this out of 1 inch by 1/4 inch aluminum so i could rapidly work the metal the way i wanted it without needing a torch. It works, but it floppy and bendy, but is a good prototype i think.




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QUOTE(purple @ Feb 19 2008, 08:48 AM) *

Sorry to resurrect a thread, but those who want to know how to run throttle cable mounts, like myself, enjoy this thread!

I made this out of 1 inch by 1/4 inch aluminum so i could rapidly work the metal the way i wanted it without needing a torch. It works, but it floppy and bendy, but is a good prototype i think.


Looking at your bracket, I am wondering if you will get enough travel in the linkage. I just built a new bracket tonight that gave me more range of travel and what a huge difference!

Have someone sit in the car and floor the throttle. So how much range the linkage rotates through. See if it opens the throttles all the way. If not, then back to the drawing board. Which is exactly where I am right now too. I have a few more degrees of rotation that I am missing at the top end that I need to find somehow.

Good luck!
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post Feb 20 2008, 09:17 AM
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an helper to ensure full throttle plate opening is great. don't forget to adjust the pedle stop to avoid the linkage being the movement stop and straining the cable.

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I'll have my girlfriend SLOWLY move it to the 'floor' as i watch the travel. I'll figure something out if it's not enough. that bracket is just a temporary thing for the moment. I can always cut the catheter on the cable slightly. I can also hammer the metal a little more to get me more of a downward pull on the cable. It's temporary so far.
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:00 PM
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Here's a shot of my bracket...arms pointed to the rear, stock length cable ( terry) and the bracket mounted to the right carb. DH


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post Feb 20 2008, 02:24 PM
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My cable bracket was built by Fat Performance. Custome made and very simple to do. They welded four washers to a kinda tripod setup. Works great. What is very important is not to have any flex in the mount. This one does a good job.
Cheers, Elliot
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:26 PM
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OK lets get some pics on there you dummy!!


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post Feb 20 2008, 02:27 PM
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Ok where's the pics El Yut (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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isnt it ideal to have the cable pull from the center of the crossbar, that way if it flexes, it flexes at the same rate for both carbs?

I could put it off to the side easily, but i thought that the crossbar flexing would make syncing hard to do right
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