MSD 6AL Hook up to stock ignition, Which tach adapter? Wiring Diagram? |
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MSD 6AL Hook up to stock ignition, Which tach adapter? Wiring Diagram? |
ConeDodger |
Nov 19 2009, 12:13 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I am hooking up an MSD 6AL to a stock DJet distributor. Which tach adapter? Anyone know the diagram pages for the installation manual that apply? Yes, I have done a search (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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jt914-6 |
Nov 19 2009, 12:39 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
Here 'ya go......With my orignal six I used the 8910 tach adaptor....With my 3.0 with factory electronic pickup I'm using the 8920 tach adaptor. You should be a able to use the 8910.....Hope this helps, if not, I'll put up some more info.
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SirAndy |
Nov 19 2009, 12:52 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I never got that adapter to work with the stock /4 tach. I tried 3 different adapters, none of which produced a signal the /4 tach liked ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy |
jt914-6 |
Nov 19 2009, 01:01 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
I had to run a tach wire from the adaptor to the tach on my 2.0 six (using a Crain Optical) to the tach. For some reason the factory wire didn't work....
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ConeDodger |
Nov 19 2009, 01:10 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Thanks guys! Got it.
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jt914-6 |
Nov 19 2009, 01:17 PM
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Driving & working on teeners 41 years Group: Members Posts: 1,786 Joined: 3-May 08 From: Bryant, Arkansas Member No.: 9,003 Region Association: South East States |
According to MSD the VDO tach when using the white trigger wire should use the #8910 adaptor, and when using the magnetic trigger connector uses the 8920 adaptor....
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watsonrx13 |
Nov 19 2009, 05:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
I never got that adapter to work with the stock /4 tach. I tried 3 different adapters, none of which produced a signal the /4 tach liked ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Andy I bought this from Andy and got it to finally work... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Here's a link to My Webpage showing how I was able to hook it up. -- Rob |
SirAndy |
Nov 19 2009, 05:15 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,676 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I never got that adapter to work with the stock /4 tach. I tried 3 different adapters, none of which produced a signal the /4 tach liked ... I bought this from Andy and got it to finally work... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Here's a link to My Webpage showing how I was able to hook it up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) I tried a 8920 but that didn't work for me either. Oh well, i'm glad you figured it all out! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Andy |
Dave_Darling |
Nov 19 2009, 11:28 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
It sounds like some tachs don't even need an adaptor to work with some of the CDI ignitions (like the MSD is). It may be something to do with early vs. late tachs, but I haven't been able to trace a real pattern in the Pelican board posts.
--DD |
campbellcj |
Nov 20 2009, 12:12 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,549 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
I think it does have something to do with the vintage/source of the tach. I recently had to install the 8920 adapter for my 70/71 911E tach and magnetic triggered dizzy. Without the adapter, the tach did not see anything that registered a reading at all.
Note that I've heard the speedo shops (NH or PA) can modify the tach to essentially have an internal adapter, but I had already bought the adapter when I learned that. Gratuitous pic - (IMG:http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/4025122662_8de0a0bd80.jpg) |
jcd914 |
Nov 20 2009, 12:19 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,081 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
Rob and I went the simple route (I subscribe to the KISS method when possible) and hooked the tach wire to the "Tach Output" on the back of the MSD box.
I will admit I cheated and read the instructions for the MSD where is says: "The MSD Ignition features a Tach Output Terminal on the side of the unit. This terminal provides a trigger signal for tachometers, a shift light or other add-on rpm activated devices. The Tach Output Terminal produces a 12 volt square wave signal with a 20% duty cycle." Jim |
ConeDodger |
Nov 20 2009, 01:24 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,612 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Rob and I went the simple route (I subscribe to the KISS method when possible) and hooked the tach wire to the "Tach Output" on the back of the MSD box. I will admit I cheated and read the instructions for the MSD where is says: "The MSD Ignition features a Tach Output Terminal on the side of the unit. This terminal provides a trigger signal for tachometers, a shift light or other add-on rpm activated devices. The Tach Output Terminal produces a 12 volt square wave signal with a 20% duty cycle." Jim Yup! Anyone need a $50 tach adapter? 8910? Frustrating as all get out. First I hooked it up and it worked but no tach. Then I went to the speed shop and got an 8910 and hooked it in. No difference. Car was running noticeably smoother and had better throttle response but no tach. Added the diode they supply but now it will not run at all. Then along comes Jim and reads the instructions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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