Autocross Tech Inspections, How does you club do them??? |
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Autocross Tech Inspections, How does you club do them??? |
URY914 |
Apr 26 2004, 07:54 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,652 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Seems there has been alot of autox events that everyone is attending lately. I was wondering how the different regions and clubs conduct the tech inspections and what gets inspected.
My region makes everyone line up in two lines and several guys check tire pressures, torque the wheels to 85 psi, check the Snell label on your helmet and check that there is nothing loose to roll and around in the trunk(s). Then we have a driver's meeting and then we line up again to grid. I personally think this is a little silly and a big waste of time. I would rather have the tech guys come to you and look over the cars where they are parked. I think checking the helmet and the overall condition of the car is all that needs to be done. So my questions are: How and when is the tech inspection done? What gets checked? I know there is no set rules for this but I want to start my club thinking about another procedure. Thanks, Paul |
seanery |
Apr 26 2004, 08:01 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Not an autocross but at the PCA DE this weekend this is how it worked:
Tech inspection form emailed to participant Participant or mechanic checks off items, tires, brakes, window cracks, no leaks, etc... Arrive at track Friday (day before DE) Inspectors check: Lug Torque Snell Cert on Helmet Brake Fluid Brake Lights Leaks Battery Terminal + covered Wheel Bearings Sticker on window then participant can complete registration and get their number & packet. |
DuckRyder |
Apr 26 2004, 08:09 PM
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Avatars Mode: OFF because of the recalcitrant few. Group: Benefactors Posts: 767 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Georgia Member No.: 110 |
Most atlanta region events tech on grid.
they check helmets and saftey items like battery hold downs, blowby not vented to the track, car cleaned out and thats about it except for obvious stuff like cords hanging out of tires. Torquing wheels is a bit over the top, infact if they tried it after I drove there I'd break his arm for trying................................................ And what are they doing f-ing with tire pressures, th'd get ya shot at most of ours....................... |
SirAndy |
Apr 26 2004, 08:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,854 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
you park and head over to registration, get your card, fill it out and stick it under yer wiper. the tech guy walks down the parking lot and whenever he sees a card under the wiper, he inspects the car.
looks for loose wheels etc., stuff that could fling around, massive oil leaks, helmets, battery tie downs etc etc etc. if you pass, he takes the card to the timing guys. if they don't have your card, the grid guy won't let you on the track. seems to work fine, Andy |
Bleyseng |
Apr 26 2004, 08:50 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you know the tech guy he lets you though, if you don't its a looong wait while he techs your car looking for the bottle of Crown Royal.
Geoff |
airsix |
Apr 26 2004, 10:47 PM
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I have bees in my epiglotis Group: Members Posts: 2,196 Joined: 7-February 03 From: Kennewick Man (E. WA State) Member No.: 266 |
Our local (no national affiliation) sports-car club really got it's crap together this year.
1) Stop at gate and sign insurance wiavers 2) Pull into the paddock (Tri-City Raceway, W. Richland, WA) 3) Go to registration table and complete entry form/inspection sheet, rungroup and course assignment 4) Pull car into one of two paralel inspection lines in the paved infield 5) Tech inspectors check battery hold-down, throttle return spring, bearing/balljoint play, etc. 6) Inspector marks car, and signs off inspection sheet. 7) Rungroup A cars now pull into grid, Rungroup B cars pull into paddock parking 8) Turn in inspection/registration sheet 9) Walk course 10) Driver meeting 11) Go time. This all works VERY well. They set up the "flow" correctly. You pull in, you do your paperwork, you pull into inspection lines, you pull into grid or padock based on rungroup. It works well because the layout is perfect. There is a flow and all the cars end up where they need to go without any congestion. And it's fast. No wasted time. -Ben M. |
Part Pricer |
Apr 27 2004, 05:22 AM
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Believe everything I post Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,825 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Danbury, CT Member No.: 35 |
It varies depending on the club. Here are my experiences.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- I run AX Tech Inspection for one of our local clubs. This club is not marque-specific, so we deal with all makes of cars. After participants unload their cars and register, they come over to the tech area and form two parallel lines. When their cars reaches the front of the line they are told to "Open the engine compartment, trunks(s), leave the driver's door open, and leave the car running." Then, three or four inspectors go over the car. We check: 1. Wheel bearings 2. Nothing loose in the car or trunk(s) 3. Throttle return 4. Pedal response/return (not sticking) 5. Battery hold down 6. Visors (it's amazing the stuff people leave up there. CD collections, garage door openers, etc.) 7. Numbers. All cars must have their number and class prominently displayed on both sides of the car. 8. Noise. We have a "good neighbor" policy. Cars cannot be too loud. If you pass, you get a sticker on your windshield. You would be amazed at some of the things we find wrong with cars. Every event we have four of five cars that flunk inspection. Most of the time the problems can be fixed in the paddock. That's why I bring a full set of tools with me. However, it seems that we have one car each event that we do not allow to run. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- With the CVR-PCA, it is similar to the above but there are some differences. Again, cars line up in two rows. However, this time the drivers stay in the cars. The inspectors check: 1. Wheel bearings 2. Nothing loose in the car or trunk(s) 3. Throttle return 4. Battery hold down 5. Lug nut/bolt torque 6. Brake fluid level 7. Brakes. This is different from other clubs. After your car has passed the other inspections, the driver is told to drive forward a few feet then stand on the brakes. This is done while holding both hands up in the air to prove that you are not holding onto the steerg wheel. This is a quick check to make sure the brakes are in a reasonable working order. If you pass, you get a sticker on your windshield. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Another group that I compete with comes around to your spot in the paddock and performs a tech inspection. They check: 1. Wheel bearings 2. Nothing loose in the car or trunk(s) 3. Throttle return 4. Battery hold down If you pass, you get a sticker on your windshield. |
Don Wohlfarth |
Apr 27 2004, 07:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 117 |
At PCA Potomac we do a tech similar to Paul Heery. We also look at the engine to see if there are any visible oil or fuel leaks. Also look for cracked wheels, rotors, or old dry rotted tires.
The entire inspection is more of a safety issue that technical. We pay a little more attention to new drivers with older cars. We run a series where all the cars are Porsches, usually with 50-70 cars. I agree with URY914 that the drivers meetings seem like a waste of time. The other side of the coin is we usually have 4 or 5 new drivers at every event. It's also a PCA insurance regulation that we go over safety issues with a drivers meeting at every event. |
URY914 |
Apr 27 2004, 11:00 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 123,652 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Don,
It is not that the driver's meeting is a waste of time, its the having to move your car to the tech line, back to park it than back to the grid. Driver's meetings are good to have and important. Of course no one does anything that is said but that is a local problem. I've been a member of several clubs where the tech guy or guys come to you where you are parked or even tech the car on the grid. I'll be talking to our new autox chairman and want pass on some other ideas for speeding the process up. Where I am in central FL, during the summer months you can set your watch by the afternoon showers at 3:00pm. And of course it is hot as hell in the summer. My intent is to get us completed and out of there before the rain starts or we die from the heat. Thanks, Paul |
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