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> 3.0 Project, Still taking it apart
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:06 PM
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Anyone out there care to watch me take apart (and hopefully put
back together) a 3.0? I can't start at the beginning because I picked
it up from a shop in this condition. Well actually it was alot uglier.
Years of oil leaks had baked on to nearly every inch.
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:18 PM
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:45 PM
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Pulled off the covers today. Not sure where to go from here. I guess I need to find a book or site with some directions.
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:47 PM
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These came off easy enough and the glides that the chains ride on
came out without much effort.
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:49 PM
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I'm going to try to keep track of what part goes where
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post Oct 9 2011, 09:51 PM
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I'd post more pictures, but I don't even know what the names of the parts are....Homework time
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post Oct 9 2011, 10:04 PM
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Dude, the 911 engine is the hardest one that I ever built. Do your homework or it will cost you $$ and heart ache when it goes boom. You should get one of the several books out there. I used the 911 engine book the Pelican Parts Wayne Dempsy published (even though I don care for him much).
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post Oct 9 2011, 10:22 PM
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Thanks, I was looking for a good book to start with. I figure this is going to be difficult to do, but I need to work on something that will be hard to do.

Did you get much help on the Pelican engine site?
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post Oct 9 2011, 11:40 PM
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You need special tools to remove the cam nuts......not like the puke that did that job before....looks as tho a coal chisel may have gotten in the mix. Cam holder & 46mm crowsfoot. There's more but you're starting in the wrong place. The valve train is the spot to start. To disassemble you need to roll the engine over....including the cams to get the rockers off.....Not "special tools" needed but not those in most guy's tool chests.

There are other ways to do it but since this is your first time it pays to disassemble backwards of assembly to learn the path & learn some tricks.

Books is gud.
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post Oct 9 2011, 11:56 PM
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I second the Wayne Dempsey book, which is what I used.

You will still need to go to the 911 engine rebuild forum on Pelican to 'fill in the gaps' if you don't understand a passage in the book.

It is not that hard, but you must be patient and meticulous. It's nothing like working on an American V8.

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post Oct 10 2011, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(PanelBilly @ Oct 10 2011, 02:06 PM) *

Anyone out there care to watch me take apart (and hopefully put
back together) a 3.0?


Definitely going to follow this thread with interest. I have a 3.0 sitting around that I am just about ready to do something with also.

So what P&C's, cams, ignition and induction are you going with?

Phil
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post Oct 10 2011, 06:51 AM
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I'm going to try to keep track of what part goes where


Your approach reminds me of when I was 15 and rebuilt my first v8, I thought I could keep track of all the parts when I pulled them apart--and v8s are simplistic. Needless to say I had extra parts left over when I was done, although it did run well for almost a year before it imploded.

I am looking forward to your journey...stop now and do some reading before the ride gets going too fast.
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post Oct 10 2011, 10:19 AM
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Interested in this thread...

I also recommend wayne's book. Previously I had worked on american v8's and one type 4, I practiced on a 2.7 I had for awhile using wayne's book. Then I rebuild the 3.0 that's in my car now using the book. So far I have about 3 years and 4 track days on the motor and it runs great!
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post Oct 10 2011, 01:15 PM
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Read through about 50 of the pelican engine threads so you know what your getting into. Just like a project car, it's much cheaper to buy one already done.
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post Oct 10 2011, 04:59 PM
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Just like a project car, it's much cheaper to buy one already done.


Yeah, who knows, you may get lucky and buy a good one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 10 2011, 06:01 PM
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post Oct 19 2011, 07:54 PM
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I got the book and started reading it last weekend.
My first order for special tools went in yesterday.
I guess I need to buy an engine stand that allows me
to split the case rather than use the one made out of
a bus tranny. Looking at the list of parts has me
wondering what direction to choose with the pistons and
cylinders. First I need to get it apart and inspect everything.
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post Oct 19 2011, 09:57 PM
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Pistons ans cylinders are where the parts seller version of the book differs from reality. What P/C do you have? Alusil can ABSOLUTELY be reconditioned and reused for about $200. Get the P/C thing researched and you save about $3k.
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post Oct 20 2011, 08:48 AM
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I remember when Wayne was researching the book. That was a significant point of confusion and contention; there were a number of sources saying that they could be, and a number saying that they absolutely could not. I think Wayne decided to err on the side of caution.

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