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> Creeping clutch adjustment, nuts!
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post Oct 21 2011, 03:25 PM
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For the past week or so I've been having to adjust my clutch every couple of days, the screws are backing off and have to be tightened up again.

The lock nut must not be holding it's spot like it should be.

Should I buy another lock nut, I guess just any other one would work?

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post Oct 21 2011, 03:36 PM
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Hell I've got the same issue on my /8 car. Curious as to a solution myself....
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post Oct 21 2011, 03:40 PM
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What kind of locknut do you have? Nylok or two jambnuts? Is it a new cable? they will stretch a bit. If the nuts aren't moving on the cable, the tube in the tunnel might have came loose.
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post Oct 21 2011, 03:48 PM
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The clutch tube could be comming out, clutch cable parting, clutch dying, or other issues involving pulling the transmission.

Confirm that the nuts at the clutch fork are not moving. Then confirm the clutch cable tube is sound and then move from there.
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post Oct 21 2011, 04:43 PM
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.......Yeah!...suggestion's above(they do stretch?) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:02 PM
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I double nutted mine

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no pun intended
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:02 PM) *

I double nutted mine

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no pun intended

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They should be double nutted.
For what ever reason, nylocs don't stay put on the clutch cable.

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post Oct 21 2011, 05:14 PM
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When I last required several cable adjustments, it turned out the cable was starting to break. Problem is it breaks behind the round delrin wheel. Grease and dirt get up in there and cause the wire cable to abrade. Not all the wires break at once, but as they break the cable gets a little longer. This area sould be watched
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:20 PM
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Check the tube as other have said, althought i've never seen it myself, a clutch roll pin in the cluster can break as others have said. Check it also?
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:41 PM
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My car has the 9in clutch kit with the Kevlar disc from Renegade. The pedal is ridiculously stiff and I'm fully expecting the cable to snap at some point. I've got a spare cable in my trunk just incase. Scotty B also suggested the pivot fork might be bending and/or fatigued. I think it's a combination of cable stretch and the nuts on the adjustment. Going to dig into it this weekend to investigate. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:47 PM
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The curious thing with Adams car is it isn't a gradual decrease in throw, but according to he and the p.o., his clutch just suddenly goes out of adjustment. I had to turn the nuts almost 3/4" to get the pedal back on Monday when he stopped by to pick up a shifter.

Adam, take a good look at the firewall where the cable comes out. That area is known to crack and pull out.I didn't even think about that when you came by.
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:07 PM
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That tube was not made to handle the force applied by Adam's clutch. He needs a reenforced tube, or a different clutch.

...or the solution we already told him to try as it would lower strain on the tube.
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Oct 21 2011, 08:07 PM) *

or a different clutch.


Www.notgonnahappen.com/ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I still need to look into increasing the diameter of the cable wheel, just haven't had the chance or time. But that's more or less related to pedal feel only.

Come to think of it last time I was under the car I do recall a funky looking gob of rtv near the cable tube exit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) I'll investigate in the morning.
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM
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I can make up a pulley system to save some strain. I need to draw it up.
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:54 PM
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I'm pretty sure my nuts are actually moving, I can tell visually. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/209.85.62.26-11654-1319244889.1.gif)

It happens gradually over a day or two of driving around.

If I get some time I'll try cleaning the grease from the cable and maybe put on a third nut.
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Oct 21 2011, 08:35 PM) *

I can make up a pulley system to save some strain. I need to draw it up.


That'd be great, especially if it works with the stock cable. I'm going to measure the stock cable and see if I can find some kind of suitable upgrade out of another car. Also keep in mind my trans is mounted 1in aft with the adapter kit, so I'm not entirely positive there's a stock cable in there just yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I took a look at the Renegade site and it says nothing about cable upgrade and/or modification with the 9in clutch kit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 21 2011, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(ripper911 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:54 PM) *

I'm pretty sure my nuts are actually moving, I can tell visually. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/209.85.62.26-11654-1319244889.1.gif)


If I get some time I'll try cleaning my third nut.
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Wrong forum ya freaky deaky perv (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Oct 21 2011, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(scotty b @ Oct 21 2011, 09:18 PM) *

QUOTE(ripper911 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:54 PM) *

I'm pretty sure my nuts are actually moving, I can tell visually. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/209.85.62.26-11654-1319244889.1.gif)


If I get some time I'll try cleaning my third nut.
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Wrong forum ya freaky deaky perv (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


I guess it'd also be the wrong forum to recommend embalming the nuts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 22 2011, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(jcd914 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:07 PM) *

QUOTE(jsayre914 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:02 PM) *

I double nutted mine

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no pun intended

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They should be double nutted.
For what ever reason, nylocs don't stay put on the clutch cable.

Jim


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I use a short piece of fuel hose with a clamp to keep the nut from moving. Installed over the end of the cable threads. Makes for easy field adjustments when needed.
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