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Plug Wires, what's the best?, stock? magnacore? |
Ferg |
Sep 15 2004, 08:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
along with my pertronix install i did a cap and rotor, well when transfering plug wires from one cap to another, i pulled to high up and pulled the wire out of the connector, I know it could be repaired but theay are older stock type anyhow so I want to replace them. Any suggestions, car is a 2.7 conversion.
Ferg. |
seanery |
Sep 15 2004, 09:10 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I've got magnecore's on my 2.7 car.
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Aaron Cox |
Sep 15 2004, 09:19 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
anyone ever use MSD or moroso wires?
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ArtechnikA |
Sep 15 2004, 09:24 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
once again - Magnecore... 85's will be all you need.
i'm sure -somebody- has used MSD or Moroso wires. but the hard part is not the wire, it is the 911 plug connector. Magnecor's done it right. -and- they are good wires. |
KenH |
Sep 15 2004, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 680 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Gilroy, CA Member No.: 156 |
Magnacore - buy direct - see their WEB site.
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machina |
Sep 15 2004, 09:36 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
I have these phat auroras from aircooled.net. They are red, that's all I know about them so far.
Quick question. I need to cut the ends off the coil lead and crimp on a 90deg angle boot. I am running a bulkhead mount fitting for the coil. (thats why) So is there anything special about crimping one of these big cables? The factory crimping looks wierd. dr Attached image(s) |
Aaron Cox |
Sep 15 2004, 09:39 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
party foul! improper use of zip ties. Five yards, and first down!
buy the ultra cool spark wire holders (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
machina |
Sep 15 2004, 09:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,030 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Miami Beach, FL Member No.: 848 |
QUOTE(acox914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:39 AM) party foul! improper use of zip ties. Five yards, and first down! buy the ultra cool spark wire holders (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well you tell it to Jake then. He's the one that put them there. That's all I got to say about that. dr |
Aaron Cox |
Sep 15 2004, 09:45 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(synthesisdv @ Sep 15 2004, 08:43 AM) QUOTE(acox914 @ Sep 15 2004, 11:39 AM) party foul! improper use of zip ties. Five yards, and first down! buy the ultra cool spark wire holders :lol: Well you tell it to Jake then. He's the one that put them there. That's all I got to say about that. dr i now retract my statement! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
914werke |
Sep 15 2004, 10:49 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,801 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
How bout NologyHot Wires (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Sep 15 2004, 11:01 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Sep 15 2004, 08:49 AM) How bout NologyHot Wires (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) i am unconvinced. they're at least $100 more than Magnecore, for one thing. they compare to 'conventional' ignition but a 2,7 already has a CD box (at least). their device works on the same principle as a series-gap spark plug and i don't see how it can provide an advantage when there is already a CD ignition. (and every ignition wire has SOME capacitance...) love to see the impartial A/B/A dyno runs on an engine that already has a HiPo CD ignition box |
914werke |
Sep 15 2004, 11:14 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,801 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In a enviroment where you have a CD ignition I might agree.
The amount of capacitance in just a single wire run is negligibal (try and load up and pop a "spark plug" wire!). On a type 4, who knows, I am convinced as on my GSXR race bike a swap from stockers to hotwires with individual postive grounding and added capacitance showed a butt and real dyno gain (butt dyno felt stronger than the 2hp recorded) Ya I know someone is gonna claim youll get better performance just by swapping new for old but 2HP? (BTW they also happen to be one of my sponsors (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) |
brant |
Sep 15 2004, 11:19 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,771 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
how much are the magnacores..
(I know I should google it) brant |
ChrisReale |
Sep 15 2004, 03:20 PM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
Spark plug wires are up there with replaceables like cap and rotor and plugs etc... Dont spend too much money. I like magnecore. The stock Bosch are good also. I fail to see how spending big bucks on "boutique" plug wires will yield any better results. But I also probably would not be able to tell the difference between normal copper speaker wire, and the ultra-expensive pure silver wire that audiophiles use, so what do I know? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Sep 15 2004, 03:28 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(brant @ Sep 15 2004, 09:19 AM) how much are the magnacores.. i got mine from Apex Performance relatively local to me, good guys to talk to, PCA members (i don't recall if i asked for, or got, a PCA discount...) $128 looks like for the 8,5mm |
Sammy |
Sep 15 2004, 03:36 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
I bought my magnecors from windward a couple years back, paid $129.
They are very good wires, if I had to do it again I would still buy magnecors. Made a huge improvrement in the way the engine ran, but that just tells me how bad the OEM wires were. A couple of things: I don't like the way the connector feels when it goes onto the dizzy cap, but they don't come loose so it aint a big deal. The little round rubber seals that seal the cooling air from leaking out the valve covers are junk on the magnecors. Mine kind of shriveled up and don't seal worth a darn. Not that big of a deal to me, but if your cooling is marginal it might be an issue. |
Ferg |
Sep 15 2004, 03:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
Thanks, that looks like a good price on them...
Truthfully I didn't realize how much money they are... How do I repair my mistake for now. I thought I had a grip on the connector and I didn't I ended up pulling the wire out of the connector that goes to the cap. I twisted it back in, but not sure if I need to recut it or not, to get a good connection? Ferg. |
seanery |
Sep 15 2004, 03:46 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
contact Richard Clewett for magnecores.
I shopped around and found that he had the best pricing, in 2000 for them. |
brant |
Sep 15 2004, 04:09 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,771 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
mike,
I'll send you a note... but I'm sure its repairable... even if we go to the flaps and buy a $.99 end for it. brant |
Ferg |
Sep 15 2004, 04:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None |
I may not get your email Brant, something is really screwy with my hotmail today... none of my outgoing messages are going through, (i think) and I not sure i'm getting all of them either.
Ferg. |
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