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Latest Excellence received, 914 values increasing! |
carreraguy |
Sep 21 2004, 12:23 PM
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It's not your dad's 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 17-October 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,256 Region Association: Northern California |
Just got my Excellence. Of note the value of 914's are on the rise!
Everyone pat yourselves on the back; I think the WCC and all the other local events country-wide go a great way towards letting everyone know more about our under-appreciated babies. Also the Tech Forum is even answering a bunch of 914 questions! Thanks Pete! |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 21 2004, 12:33 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Had to happen sooner or later. We'll have to wait and see if they hold towards next year....
Jim over at EASY always said the 914 hasn't had its day yet. It's a convertible. It's got most of the 356's nostalgia. It offers pretty damn modern performance (in the curves). And it's simple and getting better looking with each passing year. I think Jim's right -- the question is when will the 914's day be? And is it better as the underdog it is now? Appreciation goes up, prices (and the wine and cheesers) follow. Maybe Brad CAN make some money on 914s someday...and maybe 986s will become the cheapest mid-engined Porsche of them all? Now that's a scary thought. pete |
Part Pricer |
Sep 21 2004, 12:40 PM
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Believe everything I post Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,825 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Danbury, CT Member No.: 35 |
Got mine yesterday.
I haven't had the opportunity to analyze all of the numbers in depth yet. But, from a random sample, it appears that it just another formulaic approach at determining values. I've been tracking BA's pricing reports for years and it is clear to me that his values are determined as much by spreadsheet-manipulation as they are from real-world data. The write-up was bullish on the 914 market though. |
nebreitling |
Sep 21 2004, 12:59 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Sep 21 2004, 10:33 AM) And is it better as the underdog it is now? honestly, that's my humble opinion. i lament the day that these little narps are fully appreciated. i like things the way they are right now. of course, i'm a poor grad student... |
lapuwali |
Sep 21 2004, 01:02 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Formulaic as it may be, it has to be recognized that Mssr. Anderson's price guides influence the market, they don't just report on it. If he suddenly decides prices are going up, they will go up. This isn't to say that he's doing this deliberately, just that market analyst reports always have some influence on the market they're reporting on, and the more respected and well-known the analyst, the bigger the influence.
Personally, I'd prefer to not have the attention. I've sought out "unloved" cars for years because they offer good value. There are a number of excellent cars out there that cost very little because of silly market prejudices. However, I recognize that higher prices for the cars also increases the chance that parts will continue to be available. Two-edged sword, really. |
horizontally-opposed |
Sep 21 2004, 01:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,432 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Yes, but the bigger the influence, the bigger the responsibility.
Believe me, I am keeping an eye on this. Not an easy subject, tho' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) pete |
JeffBowlsby |
Sep 21 2004, 01:23 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,537 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
QUOTE i lament the day that these little narps are fully appreciated. i like things the way they are right now. Here here. |
carreraguy |
Sep 21 2004, 02:39 PM
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It's not your dad's 914! Group: Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 17-October 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 1,256 Region Association: Northern California |
I guess I kinda like the way things are too as I did not get a 914 for its appreciation value but for driving fun. However, it doesn't hurt if I can show my other half the article and somewhat rationalize/justify more "improvements" to Ol' Yeller!
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Chris H. |
Sep 21 2004, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,032 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
QUOTE(carreraguy @ Sep 21 2004, 02:39 PM) However, it doesn't hurt if I can show my other half the article and somewhat rationalize/justify more "improvements" to Ol' Yeller! Amen Brother, I am already working a respray using this newfound data. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It is a little weird that these cars that were generally unaccepted for so long are now becoming popular. Sorta like when your favorite garage band makes it big... |
Bleyseng |
Sep 21 2004, 03:03 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
What! My little Vopo is worth more money than last year! Now if the value would skyrocket at the same pace I am pouring money into it......sometimes it feels like a bottomless sinkhole. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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MattR |
Sep 21 2004, 03:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
Are higher values really what we want? I mean lets just say prices skyrocketed... wouldnt parts suppliers pick up on that and capitalize on that? I dont want to pay tail dragger prices for my VW.
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Maltese Falcon |
Sep 21 2004, 06:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,702 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
The article on the market value going up also had some dazzling words thrown in ...usually reserved for the hard core Pcar purists: targa, mid-engined, M471, 916 , GT. etc.
All of the 914s that we have bought, built, raced and exhibited and put into the faces of these NARP types is coming of age. Of course last months article WCC '04 ( props Jerrone !), and the enthusiasm of a place like 914Club , further escalates our 914s heritage and value. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
Mueller |
Sep 21 2004, 07:33 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
and just think...the more idiots out there like me that modify/molest their 914's, the better the market for the stock 914's (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
wish I had a place to store another car* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) *the hard part would be to keep my hands and tools away from it, hahahaha |
thomasotten |
Sep 21 2004, 08:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 16-November 03 From: San Antonio, Texas Member No.: 1,349 |
Does this mean that I have to repaint my tubbie back to its original boring green? Never! I halfway believe it, because now, with the Internet, the cars can be shuffled to who really wants them. But then again, didn't somebody here once say that Excellence just rehashes the 914 market story every year?
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Mueller |
Sep 21 2004, 08:12 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE But then again, didn't somebody here once say that Excellence just rehashes the 914 market story every year? yes and no.....I think it's hard to add anything that has already been printed before..he pretty much states the facts (and throws in a few of his own opinions which I don't agree with always (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) |
ppickerell |
Sep 21 2004, 08:23 PM
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914 addicted Group: Members Posts: 1,679 Joined: 14-October 03 From: Pleasanton, CA. Member No.: 1,246 |
I heartily approve of a little market recognition for these cars. Not because of any illusory financial gain. But because the cars deserve recognition. I have been driving a pristine 78 911SC for a month now and I really enjoy driving that car, but I MISS MY 914! Not to get all teary eyed here, but this car holds a unique position in Porsche history and features many innovations. Little kid told me a couple of months ago before I put the 914 in rehab as he walked by my car at a light: "Cool car!" It may spur more people to keep these cars from going to rust!
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ppickerell |
Sep 21 2004, 08:30 PM
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914 addicted Group: Members Posts: 1,679 Joined: 14-October 03 From: Pleasanton, CA. Member No.: 1,246 |
Watch for posts from my son (monkei) as he enjoys 914 ownership on a budget. I saw him this weekend get a gasoline bath changing a fuel filter. He is really pumped to get his car ready for some AX work. I have a roller with a solid running 1.7 with tranny and I am looking for a kid who wants a great deal on a project car now that my son is starting with a running complete car.
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ppickerell |
Sep 21 2004, 08:31 PM
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914 addicted Group: Members Posts: 1,679 Joined: 14-October 03 From: Pleasanton, CA. Member No.: 1,246 |
Mike,
You can store one (914) car at my work for one year for free. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
theol00 |
Sep 21 2004, 08:34 PM
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Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 242 Joined: 22-January 04 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 1,586 |
I always said it - the 914 is today the poor man's speedster - give it an other decade and we are there ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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Mueller |
Sep 21 2004, 08:35 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Mike, You can store one (914) car at my work for one year for free. what about trailers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Brad and I might have to move our trailers here at my job, the company is thinking of moving from Fremont to Hayward and I have no idea what the new location will look like parking wise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) |
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