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> Car just arrived and won't start '72 -- Solved!, Damn thing!
Jmedeiros
post Apr 5 2013, 09:21 PM
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I just got the car delivered from TX and when it left, it was firing up with no problem. Now when I turn the key to run I hear the fuel pump and when I get to start, it doesn't engage the starter but fuel pump keeps pumping. Ideas?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Apr 5 2013, 09:37 PM
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It's just shy. Rap on the starter with a hammer and try it again...
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post Apr 5 2013, 09:53 PM
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Check the battery condition, Check the relay board connections.
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post Apr 5 2013, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Apr 5 2013, 08:37 PM) *

It's just shy. Rap on the starter with a hammer and try it again...


Rapped it a few times but it didn't cure its shyness! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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post Apr 5 2013, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Apr 5 2013, 08:53 PM) *

Check the battery condition, Check the relay board connections.


The battery appears to be on its last leg. I hooked the battery charger/65amp start up to it and got the same results. Is the relay board up on the left side of the engine compartment with the black plastic cover over it?? I will try to check that tomorrow.
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post Apr 5 2013, 11:02 PM
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Welcome to the madness.

Banging on the starter or hoping some electrical gremlin will magically resolve itself will not get your car to start.

If you don't have a volt meter, go buy one. You will need it over and over again with your 40 year old car.

If you don't have the electrical background to read a schematic call a friend or 2 who can read a schematic.

Measure the voltage on the battery and tell us what you read. Lets start here.
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post Apr 5 2013, 11:06 PM
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If the battery is on its last legs, replace it and move from there. You can get good voltage readout at no load, but have it fall on its face as soon as a load is placed. The starter is a pretty big load.

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post Apr 6 2013, 09:44 AM
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This happened to me tap on the big power relay attached to the fuse panel in the engine bay. It works every time.
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:54 AM
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Something to think about changing later is the ignition switch after you have checked the easy stuff.. good luck.
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post Apr 6 2013, 10:20 AM
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Go to O'Reilly's, Sears, or Autozone and buy a mechanic's remote starter gizmo - hook the 2 wires to 1- the battery positive and 2- to the yellow wire terminal on the starter solenoid

pull the trigger (or push the button) - if the solenoid does then not kick the starter into action - pull the starter & take it to a rebuilder

if it works - track back for the culprit as suggested above


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post Apr 6 2013, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(Nico914 @ Apr 6 2013, 11:44 AM) *

This happened to me tap on the big power relay attached to the fuse panel in the engine bay. It works every time.


That makes no sense. That "big power relay attached to the fuse panel" is your voltage regulator. Dont hit it.
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:14 PM
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12.68 volts on the Fluke meter.

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Welcome to the madness.

Banging on the starter or hoping some electrical gremlin will magically resolve itself will not get your car to start.

If you don't have a volt meter, go buy one. You will need it over and over again with your 40 year old car.

If you don't have the electrical background to read a schematic call a friend or 2 who can read a schematic.

Measure the voltage on the battery and tell us what you read. Lets start here.
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:29 PM
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I should also mention that the starter and battery were recently replaced.
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:33 PM
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12.68 sounds low, disconnect the negative side a check again please. a healthy 12 v battery should read over 13 volts.
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:45 PM
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That was with the negative lead off.

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12.68 sounds low, disconnect the negative side a check again please. a healthy 12 v battery should read over 13 volts.
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post Apr 6 2013, 10:35 PM
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a healthy 12 volt battery usually reads closer to 13.5. i am no expert with these cars but i would try a different battery, or take yours to o reilly / autozone and have them load test it. if it passes they will quick charge it for free in about an hour

good luck! keep us posted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 6 2013, 10:39 PM
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I had a very similar problem when my car arrived. I thought initially it was the starter, but after buying a new starter, and not solving my problem, I did all the checks that you are going to have suggested to you. But check out my thread, and see what my problem ended up being...it was the $5 fix, which is what I hope your issue ends up being. There is a lot of good trouble shooting in there, and you'll see that I had no experience with troubleshooting electrical issues either.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=192269&hl=
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post Apr 7 2013, 12:42 PM
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I checked the resistance from the pos (+) side of the battery to the big nut on the solenoid & it was .10.

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I had a very similar problem when my car arrived. I thought initially it was the starter, but after buying a new starter, and not solving my problem, I did all the checks that you are going to have suggested to you. But check out my thread, and see what my problem ended up being...it was the $5 fix, which is what I hope your issue ends up being. There is a lot of good trouble shooting in there, and you'll see that I had no experience with troubleshooting electrical issues either.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=192269&hl=
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post Apr 7 2013, 12:43 PM
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It's a brand new battery.

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a healthy 12 volt battery usually reads closer to 13.5. i am no expert with these cars but i would try a different battery, or take yours to o reilly / autozone and have them load test it. if it passes they will quick charge it for free in about an hour

good luck! keep us posted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Apr 7 2013, 01:07 PM
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Just tested the voltage on the yellow wire: 12.39. Could it be not enough volts coming from the ignition switch to the solenoid??
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