Through-Front-Hood fuel fill, need some ideas on how to |
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Through-Front-Hood fuel fill, need some ideas on how to |
naro914 |
Jun 21 2013, 06:03 AM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
Hi all
this may be a better topic for the Paddock, but thought I would start here. Many of you have cut a hole in your front hood to allow for fueling without opening the hood. I REALLY need this on Papa Smurf for racing. So...can you show me pictures and tell me what you used/bought and where you got it to do this conversion? TIA! |
d914 |
Jun 21 2013, 06:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
I used a fuel door with a deus(sp) 1/4 turn to open... Kits are out there at lots of racing sites... But I have stock tank.... You may have to but a neck extender on a fuel cell depending how its mounted..
bad pic,, I was moving the car.. the only one I can find with the fuel door.. |
pcar916 |
Jun 21 2013, 06:32 AM
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Is that a Lola? Group: Members Posts: 1,523 Joined: 2-June 05 From: Little Rock, AR Member No.: 4,188 Region Association: None |
This is not a hard thing to do for a cell. Never did it for a stock 914 tank.
Bought everything from FuelSafe when I ordered the cell. Did this on a 356A outlaw with a custom fuel cell. When I ordered the filler-plate, I also ordered a neck extension and a rain/overflow collar with a drain hose. My pix are at home and not available for several days... I'll post the fabrication/installation pix when I get there. 1. Measure where to cut the hole. 2. Measure it again and cut the hole. 3. Measure the angle to weld on the cap socket, taking into account the cap handle if it has one. 4. Weld it onto the extension. 5. Cut the filler-plate hole and mock up the extension with the cap on. I held mine in place (in the filler-plate) with BIG magnets after cutting the hole. 6. Weld or braze the extension into place and mount the overflow collar/drain. 7. Prime and paint the assembly and bolt it on. 8. Go racing. I had the cell built with a valved purge tank just in case he ever wanted to run with FI and gave him the valves to keep with the car. Took a day Frankly I want to do this for my car too, but the extension will be about 12-14in long and has to be integrated into the hood outlet for support at the top. It'll be more complicated if I want to install a locking cap... tempting on a street car but a PITA. I'd like to just modify a cap and weld it to the bottom of the extension, then put another cap on the top. That would almost be trivial. |
shuie |
Jun 21 2013, 06:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 17-May 04 From: baton rouge, la Member No.: 2,075 |
I have no idea what would be allowed on the track, but here is how I did mine using the stock tank.
New 100mm Blau repro caps are available from VW parts dealers. Check Bughaus. The filler neck will need to be extended slightly. Go to a local diesel mechanic and ask them for a scrap piece of 4" exhaust tubing. I used a v-band exhaust flange to get the 4" pipe set on the tank. I soldered some stainless mesh from McMaster to bottom of the 4" pipe to keep random debris out of the tank. For the overflow catch can, I used a $3 pet food bowl. The hardest part to source is the Blau filler neck. Dave at TRE has them. He can actually sell you a soup-to-nuts through the hood filler kit if you don't want to figure all of this out on your own. If I had to do this again I would just buy his kit. Here are a couple of pics that were taken as I was test fitting and cutting everything up on mine. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh3.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818510.1.JPG) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh5.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818511.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh4.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818511.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh6.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818850.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh4.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818748.1.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh4.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818748.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/lh4.googleusercontent.com-2075-1371818511.4.jpg) |
914itis |
Jun 21 2013, 07:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,892 Joined: 9-October 10 From: New York City Member No.: 12,256 Region Association: North East States |
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naro914 |
Jun 21 2013, 07:22 AM
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Losing my mind... Group: Members Posts: 2,476 Joined: 26-May 06 From: Charlotte, NC Member No.: 6,073 Region Association: South East States |
should have mentioned - stock tank
Might have to call TRE... |
Chris H. |
Jun 21 2013, 07:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,032 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
iamchappy did a really nice job on his. Here's the link:
Link You can see it on page 13...he probably details the build in prior pages. |
brant |
Jun 21 2013, 08:04 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,635 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
the light weight version:
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Harpo |
Jun 21 2013, 09:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,304 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Motor City aka Detroit Member No.: 13,469 Region Association: None |
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Mike Bellis |
Jun 22 2013, 10:12 AM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,345 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None |
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sixnotfour |
Jun 22 2013, 11:17 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,433 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
did this long ago..
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