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last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 02:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-December 12 From: New Orleans Member No.: 15,221 Region Association: None |
I have been searching the forum and cant seem to find the best way to lift this thing for starting rust repair. I have access to 6x6 lumber pieces they use to crib lift houses in NOLA and have a number of 3-4 foot pieces already on hand. I was wondering what the best points were for lifting it to be able to start pulling things apart but also allow access to the engine bay (to drop the engine and access from underside). Anyone with any good pics of this would be appreciated. Also, what height would be best for being able to get engine out but also work on this thing easily. Tonight it begins!
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jimkelly |
Dec 6 2013, 02:46 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
nothing beats (or comes close to beating) a rotisserie.
though for long repair you probably want to support it evenly and at as many points as possible. Attached image(s) |
SirAndy |
Dec 6 2013, 03:17 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
though for long repair you probably want to support it evenly and at as many points as possible. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I like what they did for the blue car in the pic above. Supporting the longs that way will help prevent bending the tub as you're cutting into it. Also note the door bracing they added ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
obscurity |
Dec 6 2013, 03:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 411 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Atlanta ,GA Member No.: 5,628 Region Association: South East States |
For most of the body work a rotisserie is probably the best. It will give you better (less contorted) access to most parts of the car.
to get the engine out I just jacked the car up and dropped it. Once it was out I built a wood box out of 2x4 and 3/4" plywood that hold it up well. It has given me good access to the Hell Hole but it won't work for the floors. |
ThePaintedMan |
Dec 6 2013, 03:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,886 Joined: 6-September 11 From: St. Petersburg, FL Member No.: 13,527 Region Association: South East States |
Jim always is really helpful in posting the right links and pics for people in need. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
Actually, that second picture is great, and brings up a point that Rick made on the other thread. I forgot that I built my door braces to go between the door hinge and the seat belt hole, NOT the door latch striker like I had said in that thread. If you end up having to cut enough away from the rear quarter panel, like in that pic, you can see where having a brace going from the hinge to striker probably wouldn't be the best idea. Rich is right.... yet again. |
last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 09:32 PM
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last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 09:34 PM
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last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 09:39 PM
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last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 09:41 PM
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SirAndy |
Dec 6 2013, 09:42 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
That's about as bad as the blue car above. The good news is you can get all the pieces you need to fix this from RD.
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last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 09:44 PM
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That's about as bad as the blue car above. The good news is you can get all the pieces you need to fix this from RD. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) I wouldn't think I would need to cut that much off of the fender. That blue car cut a lot out. Is it easier that way? Should I just use a cutting wheel on a grinder for everything? |
SirAndy |
Dec 6 2013, 10:06 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,669 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I wouldn't think I would need to cut that much off of the fender. That blue car cut a lot out. Is it easier that way? Should I just use a cutting wheel on a grinder for everything? The fender was cut to gain access to the long. It's much, much, much easier to fix that way. Cutoff wheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) PS: And the engine has to come out! http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php |
last337 |
Dec 6 2013, 10:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-December 12 From: New Orleans Member No.: 15,221 Region Association: None |
Who thinks I should go back to yellow?
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Spoke |
Dec 6 2013, 10:53 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,986 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Hey, that's a low rust car here in the North East.
Good luck with the repairs. Measure the chassis at every point. Once it's twisted after repairs, it's hard to get it back to normal. Don't ask how I know. BTW, yellow is the fastest color..... |
michelko |
Dec 7 2013, 02:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 30-November 03 From: Germany, Lambsheim Member No.: 1,404 Region Association: None |
Hi that blue car is mine.
I decided to cut the quarter because of the better access. Used a dremel with that tiny cut wheels to loose not too much material. Took. Some but they are cheap. Michael |
last337 |
Dec 7 2013, 09:45 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-December 12 From: New Orleans Member No.: 15,221 Region Association: None |
I wouldn't think I would need to cut that much off of the fender. That blue car cut a lot out. Is it easier that way? Should I just use a cutting wheel on a grinder for everything? The fender was cut to gain access to the long. It's much, much, much easier to fix that way. Cutoff wheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) PS: And the engine has to come out! http://www.914world.com/specs/tech_engdrop1.php I am guessing it is best to drop engine before starting to cut? Is that because it makes it less likely to twist once you take that weight off? |
last337 |
Dec 7 2013, 09:58 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-December 12 From: New Orleans Member No.: 15,221 Region Association: None |
Hi that blue car is mine. I decided to cut the quarter because of the better access. Used a dremel with that tiny cut wheels to loose not too much material. Took. Some but they are cheap. Michael What pieces did you end up needing to order/replace from restorationdesign? I am looking at their site and I am not exactly sure what I am going to need. Dont worry, I wont order till I get it all apart just starting to price it all. |
michelko |
Dec 7 2013, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 867 Joined: 30-November 03 From: Germany, Lambsheim Member No.: 1,404 Region Association: None |
Hi, i used the part 330 and 331 inner wheelhouse and301 inner rocker panel
Michael |
last337 |
Dec 9 2013, 09:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 4-December 12 From: New Orleans Member No.: 15,221 Region Association: None |
Just another pic of what is left of the interior. I found a relatively large rust area right under the driver's seat...glad that will be getting fixed as well. I had a hard time getting that center console stuff out of the interior. Does anyone have a link on how to disassemble all of that?
I am in the middle of dropping the motor at this point but having a hard time getting a few things loose. The allen key screw on the front shifter joint is pretty chewed up so that is where I stopped last night. I hope to have the engine out this week with lots more pics. This is like pulling a thread on a sweater.. |
914work |
Dec 9 2013, 12:00 PM
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You were expecting MORE rust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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