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| TINCAN914 |
 Jan 20 2014, 04:07 PM
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Summer's Commin...  Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
i am in need of a new starter, and there are a number of companies out there, any suggestions on who to use or who to stay away from?
74 1.8 in case anyone has a good used one. thanks Brian |
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| SLITS |
Jan 20 2014, 05:31 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
They are all the same (1.7 / 1.8 / 2.0). Commonly called the VW Automatic Starter .. Rebuilding is done by many companies ... Robert Bosch contracts with a stateside rebuilder ... don't know who it is currently. By Bosch numbers you want an SR17X. If they try to give you an SR15X it won't fit as it is for a Type 1. The Lester Number is 16300. OEM is 0 001 212 005. The electrical catalogs are wrong and they won't change it.
I use the Hi Performance starter off eBay for my sixes and previously for my 4s. About $119.00. It's a new starter with a nose compatible with Porsche. |
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| mrbubblehead |
Jan 20 2014, 06:55 PM
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Twodollardoug Group: Members Posts: 1,155 Joined: 17-December 10 From: calimesa ca. Member No.: 12,492 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Jan 20 2014, 03:31 PM)  They are all the same (1.7 / 1.8 / 2.0). Commonly called the VW Automatic Starter .. Rebuilding is done by many companies ... Robert Bosch contracts with a stateside rebuilder ... don't know who it is currently. By Bosch numbers you want an SR17X. If they try to give you an SR15X it won't fit as it is for a Type 1. The Lester Number is 16300. OEM is 0 001 212 005. The electrical catalogs are wrong and they won't change it. I use the Hi Performance starter off eBay for my sixes and previously for my 4s. About $119.00. It's a new starter with a nose compatible with Porsche. ron, do you have a link? |
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| TINCAN914 |
Jan 20 2014, 08:13 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks Slits...
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| bdstone914 |
Jan 20 2014, 08:26 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,541 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
QUOTE(TINCAN914 @ Jan 20 2014, 08:13 PM) Thanks Slits... I have a good shop near me that rebuilds starters and has been in business for 25 years. He charges $75. I have cores and could take him one to rebuild. Total would be $115 shipped. You can find them listed at local auto parts stores and it is a crap shoot as to what you get. There cataloging is often wrong and you get a VW bus starter. I just checked O'Reilly's and they show #16300 one for $40 an a $15 core charge. They do show the same part number for a Automatic bus. Maybe Slits is right. It has happened before (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Jan 21 2014, 07:32 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I have one freshly rebuilt by a neighbor in my shop complex. He's been doing all kinds of starters and alternators for me for 15 years. Haven't gotten a bad one yet.
90 bucks shipped priority mail in the US. Pm me if your interested |
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| sfrenck |
Jan 21 2014, 07:51 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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| GeorgeRud |
Jan 21 2014, 08:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Though the lifetime warrantee is nice, how often do you want to replace the starter. A friend had to install three before he got one that worked!
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| saigon71 |
Jan 21 2014, 08:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,000 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Dillsburg, PA Member No.: 10,428 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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I had a bad experience with a FLAPS stater...it worked intermittently for a while then stopped working all together while I was on a road trip.
I ended up going the hi-torque mini starter route from this ebay vendor and I am very happy with it so far: http://stores.ebay.com/hiperformanceofamerica/ He appears to be out of stock for the 914 right now though. I paid $120. |
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| sfrenck |
Jan 21 2014, 10:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 492 Joined: 28-February 10 From: Wilmington, DE Member No.: 11,411 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Jan 21 2014, 09:03 AM) Though the lifetime warrantee is nice, how often do you want to replace the starter. A friend had to install three before he got one that worked! Well I guess I'm the opposite side of that story as I bought mine, installed it, and haven't thought about it since. |
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 21 2014, 10:15 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(saigon71 @ Jan 21 2014, 09:24 AM) I had a bad experience with a FLAPS stater...it worked intermittently for a while then stopped working all together while I was on a road trip. I ended up going the hi-torque mini starter route from this ebay vendor and I am very happy with it so far: http://stores.ebay.com/hiperformanceofamerica/ He appears to be out of stock for the 914 right now though. I paid $120. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) That's odd...a SR17X works in a bug, so wouldn't you just use the bug starter version in a 914? SR17X was standard in the VW automatics, many put them in standard trans bugs. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Jan 21 2014, 10:26 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The SR 17X has a built in bearing in the nose, and is designed to operate in an application that has no bearing/bushing in the transmission case. The SR 15X requires a bushing in the case. The SR 17X will work in either application, the SR 15X will work only in cases with the support bushing. The armature doesn't like flopping around in the starter body.
The Cap'n |
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 21 2014, 11:05 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Jan 21 2014, 11:26 AM) The SR 17X has a built in bearing in the nose, and is designed to operate in an application that has no bearing/bushing in the transmission case. The SR 15X requires a bushing in the case. The SR 17X will work in either application, the SR 15X will work only in cases with the support bushing. The armature doesn't like flopping around in the starter body. The Cap'n (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I was pointing out that the starter in the ebay link says it is for a bug and is self supporting like a sr17x. It's been common practice for years to replace a SR15X with the SR17X in a bug because of a worn out bushing or just as an upgrade. |
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| TINCAN914 |
Jan 21 2014, 11:08 AM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Thanks for all the feedback, this is very helpful...
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| Downunderman |
Jan 21 2014, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 852 Joined: 31-May 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 766 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
Be careful of the Hi-Torque. Some of them don't throw in far enough and will ruin the ring gear. I found out the hard way. So did Jeff Fort.
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| Mark Henry |
Jan 21 2014, 12:40 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Downunderman @ Jan 21 2014, 01:17 PM) Be careful of the Hi-Torque. Some of them don't throw in far enough and will ruin the ring gear. I found out the hard way. So did Jeff Fort. Very important if you use one of these aftermarket units that you check the pinion depth when engaged. I see the ebay one comes with an alignment shim so the seller does know there can be issues and his sales invoice wording most likely covers his ass. |
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