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| warpig |
Apr 17 2014, 07:24 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 2-August 10 From: Portland OR Member No.: 12,002 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Trying to get to 20 units for the best discount. Currently at 11 sold (4/17/14)
$158 plus shipping. Appears to be a high quality item. I asked the vender to extend the deadline so I could spread the word to my 914 World bretheren, and he agreed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Not sure for how long though. I have mine ordered already. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif) No, you can't borrow it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif) Pelican thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...ng-fixture.html Vendors Evil bay ad: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-356-911-91...7071045?vxp=mtr Attached thumbnail(s) |
| toolguy |
Apr 17 2014, 07:37 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,276 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California
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this one works great for $80
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PORSCHE-VOLKSWAGEN...450&vxp=mtr |
| bigkensteele |
Apr 17 2014, 08:11 PM
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Major Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,200 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States
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That is the one that I bought and am about to use. My only complaint is that it doesn't come with indexing holes or lever holes drilled. The steel is pretty heavy gauge, and I don't have drill press. Might have to take it to a machine shop or use this as an excuse to buy a drill press. Perhaps that feedback will help the cause of the GB if anyone was on the fence. |
| warpig |
Apr 17 2014, 08:40 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 2-August 10 From: Portland OR Member No.: 12,002 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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I looked at the ad for this one too. After comparingt the forged and purpose machined mounting flange to the apparently less robust version, I concluded that my expensive and time consuming engine build, will be better served by the item purportedly to be a replica of the one they use at the factory. If I wanted to bolt it up to an incomplete fixture made of 1/4" plate, I would build one myself for free. Just sayin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
| aircooledtechguy |
Apr 17 2014, 09:30 PM
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The Aircooledtech Guy ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I bought one of these ones 8 years ago and while it does "work" it's got some big design flaws. 1. The 3 bars are too short to allow you to remove/install the flywheel or clutch assembly with the engine on the stand. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 2. The ring that the engine mounts to interferes with the engine tin s on the 3/4 side (which annoyingly happens to be the side that you mount to the stand to build the long block). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Both of these force you to remove the engine from the stand. Not a big deal if you have a lift making it a snap to remove/install a motor from a stand. But, if you don't and you have to say beg your wife to help you lift it just once, it will likely cost you more than the price difference in "wining & dining" and otherwise making up for causing her to strain herself lifting the engine. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) Just buy the good one the first time. . . |
| Java2570 |
Apr 17 2014, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 649 Joined: 7-May 11 From: Fishers, IN Member No.: 13,035 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I also bought one similar to the $80 ebay ad but I think I got mine from the Samba....looks the same to me. It works ok and I was able to drill holes
for locking pins with my step drill. However, it does make certain things very difficult. I was able to put on/take off my flywheel to check endplay but it is pretty tight. I don't think you could do the clutch disc/pressure plate though. If I was buying again, I'd go for the better one. |
| warpig |
Apr 21 2014, 07:12 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 2-August 10 From: Portland OR Member No.: 12,002 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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The deadline has been extended to Friday (04/25/14). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
Currently, Monday (04/21/14) we are at 15 paid orders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) So if you want one cheapish, now is the time, or by Friday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
| 02loftsmoor |
Apr 21 2014, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 26-June 11 From: Ft. Worth TX Member No.: 13,243 Region Association: Southwest Region
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I bought on also with the 4 spokes, the VW engine is so lite there is no warpage, and you can easly rotate the engine. it's no brainer.
those from pelican are overkill, and how many times are you going to build an engine. That is the one that I bought and am about to use. My only complaint is that it doesn't come with indexing holes or lever holes drilled. The steel is pretty heavy gauge, and I don't have drill press. Might have to take it to a machine shop or use this as an excuse to buy a drill press. Perhaps that feedback will help the cause of the GB if anyone was on the fence. |
| 0396 |
Apr 21 2014, 09:35 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
I bought one of these ones 8 years ago and while it does "work" it's got some big design flaws. Just buy the good one the first time. . . Pretty good advice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
| lonewolfe |
Apr 22 2014, 12:33 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
Hummm! I bought the less expensive model last year and am now finally ready to start using it. I still have to get holes drilled for the pins etc...
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| Mark Henry |
Apr 22 2014, 07:14 AM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
When building a /4 you will not be able to install the #3 piston pin with that design.
I should know I have 4 stands, except for this exact one, that was given to me last year, I have made or modified my other 3. This design is good for a /6, but none of my /4 builds will go on it. I do have a 5 arm that works with /4 but the middle arm is modified. (BTW this one will work for a /4 in a pinch, but you have to remove it to install the #3 piston pin. PITA IMHO) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-12002-1397784924_thumb.jpg) |
| Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 22 2014, 09:00 AM
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Remove it to install the #3 piston pin? Why? From P-car school on, I've always removed and installed that pin from the right side as you face the piston. Comes right out, goes right in, and there's NOTHING in the way. Removal requires a slide hammer, but you should have one of those anyway. I can show you how to make the adaptor, and you CAN try this at home ............................
As for the stand head itself, I would never throw my money at that el-cheapo thing. I'm in for the good one. PM on the way. Once it's in hand, my old factory engine stand head will be on the market. 911 engines like to be on a stand sturdy enough to take the weight .......................... The Cap'n |
| Cap'n Krusty |
Apr 22 2014, 09:11 AM
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
So, looking at the Pelican thread, the ones in the GB seem to built by some guy on the forum, and are NOT the ones pictured. The one in the E-bay ad appears to be made by SIR Tools in Nor Cal, and Oliver's stuff is absolutely 1st class. Are these gonna be that good? Can I trust my $15K (or more!) 911 engine to one of these? Is the $50-75 I save by buying this gonna turn around and bite me? Granted, I don't know the guy, and he may very well be just the right man for the job, but how do I know that?
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| Mark Henry |
Apr 22 2014, 09:17 AM
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that's what I do! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Remove it to install the #3 piston pin? Why? From P-car school on, I've always removed and installed that pin from the right side as you face the piston. Comes right out, goes right in, and there's NOTHING in the way. Removal requires a slide hammer, but you should have one of those anyway. I can show you how to make the adaptor, and you CAN try this at home ............................ As for the stand head itself, I would never throw my money at that el-cheapo thing. I'm in for the good one. PM on the way. Once it's in hand, my old factory engine stand head will be on the market. 911 engines like to be on a stand sturdy enough to take the weight .......................... The Cap'n Yep you can...but my way of is so way faster and less hassle than the old school method, but each their own. But then I don't use head gaskets as well.................... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
| infraredcalvin |
Apr 22 2014, 01:38 PM
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Distracted Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,743 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California
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So, looking at the Pelican thread, the ones in the GB seem to built by some guy on the forum, and are NOT the ones pictured. The one in the E-bay ad appears to be made by SIR Tools in Nor Cal, and Oliver's stuff is absolutely 1st class. Are these gonna be that good? Can I trust my $15K (or more!) 911 engine to one of these? Is the $50-75 I save by buying this gonna turn around and bite me? Granted, I don't know the guy, and he may very well be just the right man for the job, but how do I know that? The Cap'n If you read further in the thread it started as a guy on the forum building them, but it switched to a GB of the ones pictured, looks like the seller became a member to facilitate the gb. I never saw any connection to sir tools, looks like these might come from China, Quality Specialty Components... |
| gms |
Apr 22 2014, 06:31 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,746 Joined: 12-March 04 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 1,785 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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this 5 Arm Engine Yoke looks like a much better deal to me???
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| warpig |
May 10 2014, 09:09 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 290 Joined: 2-August 10 From: Portland OR Member No.: 12,002 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Got mine a week or so ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Fast shipping, can't wait to get to stripping my donor and tearing into the motor now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
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| kkid |
Dec 18 2014, 11:44 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 362 Joined: 18-December 07 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 8,483 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey, so who's using this yoke now?
How do you like it so far? What's the difference between this QSC and Sir Tool product? I have got the heavy duty clamp (P201) bolted on my engine stand and is metric(60mm) so my new yoke needs to be exact size or bit smaller. The one on samba would not fit since they are all 2-3/8" of diameter in the shaft size. ![]() ![]() Thanks in advance, kkid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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