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How to heat seats not Porsche...., Don't let Speed Metal Army read this |
porbmw |
May 30 2014, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
My teener project has been hijacked by something else that needs to get done, preferably by this summer.
But don't tell Speed....I told him that he'd have the first chance to laugh or otherwise critique it. And the question here....pertains more to impending winter The project is air-cooled...but for unstated reasons it won't be practical to get heat into the cabin via heat exchangers And a gas heater seems to not be do-able, either......I have a good one from a VW bus, but it is just to large for fitment.... Any manufacturers of smaller gas heaters????? Would be nice to have some heat in the cabin, would have preferred to have heat that could get to the windshield, but seem stymied re getting heat to the dash. Anybody have any ideas re other sources of heat ....as a compromise....heated seats....or an electric heater........???? If heated seats any sources????? Thanks |
GeorgeRud |
May 30 2014, 10:07 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
There are a bunch of seat heaters available (just Google seat heaters) that can be installed under the upholstery of your seats, but I've never found a better heat/defrost source than the heat exchangers.
The gas fired heaters (Eberspacher or Webasto) would be great, and worked well in VWs, boats, etc., but I've only see one photo of a heater mounted in a 914. Has anyone actually seen one in person? |
jmalone |
May 30 2014, 10:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 3-July 09 From: reno,NV Member No.: 10,529 Region Association: Northern California |
See Camp914 for heated seat kits
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Elliot Cannon |
May 30 2014, 10:57 PM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
This guy has them. Everyone scoffs at heated seats. Until they try them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) http://classiccarseats.com/
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bulitt |
May 31 2014, 05:32 AM
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Achtzylinder Group: Members Posts: 4,188 Joined: 2-October 11 Member No.: 13,632 Region Association: South East States |
Ebay for around 50$
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Nine_14 |
May 31 2014, 07:13 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 30-August 12 From: Germany Member No.: 14,873 Region Association: Germany |
There are a bunch of seat heaters available (just Google seat heaters) that can be installed under the upholstery of your seats, but I've never found a better heat/defrost source than the heat exchangers. The gas fired heaters (Eberspacher or Webasto) would be great, and worked well in VWs, boats, etc., but I've only see one photo of a heater mounted in a 914. Has anyone actually seen one in person? Gas fired heaters are the better choise, seat headers keep your backside warm, but the nose cold, gas fired heaters warm up the cabin. But they are not cheep and the installation is allways a custom made product. http://www.standheizungen-international.de...uftheizungen%22 |
r_towle |
May 31 2014, 08:01 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,585 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
There are a couple current manufacturers that I know of: eberspacher and webasto. Both have websites: http://www.espar.com/htm/airheat.htm and http://www.webasto-thermo.com
Automotive Heater Technologies(Ark Marvis a.k.a. Heaterman) 201-398-6363 www.hometown.aol.com/arkmarvis/heaterman.html or email heaterman@nac.net It seems that Ark may have retired a while ago....seems to have stopped posting on the samba around 2007. I would suggest you go look on the samba for anyone else that may be rebuilding these heaters now, there may be a few that have decided to take this market on. Rich |
speed metal army |
May 31 2014, 09:05 AM
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Waiting for the rain to stop... Group: Members Posts: 1,068 Joined: 4-September 10 From: PNW Member No.: 12,137 Region Association: Canada |
I thought i may have an idea about the mystery mobile.... Now im sure I dont! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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porbmw |
Jun 2 2014, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the posts.
Will follow up on some of the sources. Would love to get true heat n this thing, even though it won't see it won't see the road in winter months. But heated seats are not out of the question. Project slowly progressing, should have it on the road SOMETIME this summer.... How about an update on the flares, Speed????? THanks, all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
aircooledtechguy |
Jun 2 2014, 08:37 AM
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The Aircooledtech Guy Group: Members Posts: 1,966 Joined: 8-November 08 From: Anacortes, WA Member No.: 9,730 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
For a gas heater, www.espar.com (which is the old Eberspacher) makes great air/air heaters in gas and diesel models. I've installed a BL1 in a VW bus and it is VERY compact in size and pumps out the BTUs.
I installed a set of carbon mat seat heaters that I got off eBay into my Squareback's 911 seats when I had them re-upholstered. Man, are they comfy and worth every penny of the $75 or so I spent on them. I won't be without seat heaters on any car I regularly drive in the future. My wife loves them too. . . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
porbmw |
Jun 2 2014, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
I have an Esperspacher from a bus....
It is huge...well, pretty big, and way bigger than I can use for this project BUT www.espar.com has some intriguing products...including electrical heaters. Will be very interesting. I DO love heated seats...but will see if I can get the entire cabin toasty |
lonewolfe |
Jun 2 2014, 04:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 819 Joined: 12-September 11 From: Oakland, CA Member No.: 13,549 Region Association: Northern California |
I am in the same predicament! I have purchased a seat heater kit off EBay as well but it's not installed yet. I really need real heat in the car. I have a big stroker being built and heater boxes kind of defeat the purpose of a performance motor. My girlfriend needs heat and I'm thinking of a gas heater. I've found Webasto's for about $1100 that run on gasoline. Most of the heaters sold in the US are diesel and designed for tractor trailer trucks or boats. Any of these are are going to take some fabrication to install. I've see a picture of a factory install from Europe and it was mounted in the front trunk on the drivers side inner fender. So, I know it can be done. Just time and lots of $$$!
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Chris914n6 |
Jun 2 2014, 05:15 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,328 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Is there something wrong with ceramic heaters?
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Chris914n6 |
Jun 2 2014, 08:24 PM
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Jackstands are my life. Group: Members Posts: 3,328 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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porbmw |
Jun 2 2014, 11:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
Is there something wrong with ceramic heaters? I don't think there's anything wrong with ceramic....don't expect they can give a solid blast of hot air up onto the dash.....but at least would take the chill off the air. }Have just considered ceramics in the last week or so....as a back up plan. Had thought finding a gas fired solution, in a smaller package, would have been a bit more available. Still looking, will see THanks for the inputs. |
porbmw |
Jun 2 2014, 11:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 811 Joined: 10-September 08 From: Vancouver, B.C. Member No.: 9,534 Region Association: None |
Is there something wrong with ceramic heaters? I don't think there's anything wrong with ceramic....don't expect they can give a solid blast of hot air up onto the dash.....but at least would take the chill off the air. }Have just considered ceramics in the last week or so....as a back up plan. Had thought finding a gas fired solution, in a smaller package, would have been a bit more available. Still looking, will see THanks for the inputs. |
CptTripps |
Jun 3 2014, 06:14 AM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ebay for around 50$ That's what I did. Here are the ones I grabbed. Seriously easy to install. eBay Heated Seats |
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