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injunmort
post Jun 21 2014, 04:29 PM
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my '71 w/tailshifter started to pop out of first gear occasionally, now it wont stay in at all. no problems with the other gears and reverse. fairly new shifter bushings and clutch has been adjusted. any thoughts? thank you
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post Jun 21 2014, 05:00 PM
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Probably get ahold of Dr. Evil as hes in your area ( I think) he can sort you out.
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post Jun 21 2014, 05:51 PM
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If all of your external stuff it in good shape, then the teeth and or band are shot.

This aint the one you built at the clinic, is it?
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post Jun 21 2014, 06:08 PM
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no, that one is going in the 72 on the rotisserie, this is the yellow 71 that I have been driving a lot this year. it never shifted well, is it possible that the linkage is adjusted incorrectly? how you be, btw.
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post Jun 21 2014, 06:21 PM
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I am alive....long story (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You have to verify that all is healthy and adjusted in the linkage before you go into the transmission. However, tail shifters are notorious for crappy shifting at their best. BUT, it should stay in gear. Any other gears messed up?
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post Jun 21 2014, 06:27 PM
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no all the other gears are fine including reverse, which makes me think your first thought is accurate. first has always been wonky. I hope all is well.
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post Jun 21 2014, 07:07 PM
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still in the parts business?
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post Jun 21 2014, 09:34 PM
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The following article may help, if you decide to dig in:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...anny_repair.htm

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post Jun 21 2014, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(injunmort @ Jun 21 2014, 09:07 PM) *

still in the parts business?

You know it, man. I cant keep away. I got what you need (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 18 2014, 07:21 PM
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I finally had the time to address the woes, swapped the whole first gear assembly with the one done at the clinic, what is the trick to replace the tail cone? first gear dogs we toast as was the synchro band.
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post Jul 18 2014, 09:01 PM
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The cone should be easy, unless you are doing it with engine in car. If that is the case, a little heavy grease holds the washer and flat bearing in place. When you say you swapped 1st, did you swap the idler gear and the little gear on the end of the shaft, too? You must keep these all together as one happy family. Make sure to TQ the big-ass-bolt to 80-90ft/lb. Uses a deep 30mm.
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post Jul 19 2014, 08:21 AM
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I did not swap the idler gear, I guess I will be doing that today. thank you. the engine and trans are in the car.
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post Jul 19 2014, 08:30 AM
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:03 PM
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I must have fuched something up, now it wont shift at all, the lever wont move and it was difficult to reassemble. going to go back out and take it apart again. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I had to leave it alone for a few minutes because I started to reach for a bfh.
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:10 PM
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Tail shifters are the biggest PITA and for lower performance.

You must make sure the shifter rod in the box that is actuated by the tail cone stuff is not dislocated. Then, you must make sure the mechanism in the tail cone is lines up and engaged with that rod. If you dislodged the internal main shift rod, you need to relocated it first and foremost. Hard to explain, a PITA to do. Sorry. Wish you lived closer as it would take me a second.
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:18 PM
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thanks mike, I appreciate the attention. when I take it apart again, should I remove the speedo drive? I think it was in first gear when I took it apart the first time now I have no idea.
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(injunmort @ Jul 19 2014, 05:18 PM) *

thanks mike, I appreciate the attention. when I take it apart again, should I remove the speedo drive? I think it was in first gear when I took it apart the first time now I have no idea.

Speedo can stay in. It needs to be in neutral when you assemble it so that the internal rod has some play to mate with the external tail cone shift mech. Do you have the little plate on the tail cone? That needs to come off to get the parts to mate properly.
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post Jul 19 2014, 03:29 PM
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BTW, neutral means the rod can easily be rotated. In and out = shifting gears.
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post Jul 19 2014, 04:01 PM
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the plate is off but it looks like I may got the linkage in wrong. I am now taking apart again. hopefully I didn't destroy anything when I put it back together.
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