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will this front suspension work?, what else do i need? |
xsboost90 |
Jan 25 2005, 06:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
ok so a friend of mine has a 78 911 and recently switched the front end over to bigger spindles, torsion bars, brakes. He said he would sell me...
-torsion bars -steel calipers -spindles shocks -new rotors-hopefully w/ bearings also has a set of aluminum calipers fairly cheap for same car.... all for under $300. BUT will this all fit on my 76 914/4 and what else do i need. I know there may be some kind of deal w/ the ball joint-anything else. OH and im planning on doing the 930 tie rod ends, is this something i immediatly have to do if i switch front ends? Just for sake of getting it back together-ill switch them before i race or anything. Attached image(s) |
ArtechnikA |
Jan 25 2005, 06:34 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
you will need 911 A-Arms if you are using 911 torsion bars; the splines are different... you need the rear adjuster part too.
by "spindles" i am assuming you mean struts. rotors don't have bearings, but hubs do. you will need 911 struts and hubs (complete with bearings). you'll need 5-lug wheels, at least two. a '76 914 should have the newer style ball joints, but check for compatibility just in case. |
xsboost90 |
Jan 25 2005, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
oh right, i was thinking the rotors were one piece, so i need hubs/bearings. Ill prob keep the stock torsions till i find some arms or just put some heavier stock torsion bars in-makes sense. Does anyone know about ball joint compatibility?
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Jeroen |
Jan 25 2005, 08:15 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Like Rich mentioned, you need 911 A-arms to use 911 t-bars
IIRC, the stock 911 t-bars are 19mm, just like the 914, so that won't be an upgrade... All said and done, I think if you need to go shopping for the missing parts (a-arms, hubs, bearings, calipers) you'll be out more expesive than if you just buy a complete 911 front end some place else... |
skline |
Jan 25 2005, 08:23 AM
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Born to Drive Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) I got the complete front suspension from a 911 for mine and it was around $250 for everything. Then I wound up buying all new bearings, rotors, rebuilt calipers, ball joints and the turbo tie rods and put it all in. Kind of a while you are in there thing. It's not cheap but worth it in the end. Like I said before, if it is worth doing, its worth doing right and the first time.
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xsboost90 |
Jan 25 2005, 08:58 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
ok, good advise. Ill have to check out what all he has, havent seen any of it yet. Im kinda hoping he has the hubs with it but...doubt it. To be continued.
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anthony |
Jan 25 2005, 10:23 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
If you install 911 torsion bars then you will want to increase the spring rate at the rear as well.
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ArtechnikA |
Jan 25 2005, 10:43 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
the part numbers are different... a '78 911 shows 2 901.343.101.12 (L + R) diameter is not shown, it'd take a bit of research to see what size those are, and i have no references with me today. 914.6 used 914.343.101.00 (L) and 914.343.102.00 ® and were 17.9mm. (914/4 were the same size, but different part numbers, different splines...) as for ball joints - if your '76 914 uses a wedge-pin retainer, you're in good shape. if it for some reason uses a pinch/clamp bolt ball joint, you will be upgrading - but i think that unlikely. oh - if you uprate to 911-size front calipers you will probably find your master cylinder inadequate if it is still the stock 17mm one -- 911's (and 914.6) used 19mm MC's - except for aluminum-caliper 911's, which used the NLA 20,5mm MC. |
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Root_Werks |
Jan 25 2005, 11:23 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,337 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
$300 seems like a great deal, grab it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
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xsboost90 |
Jan 25 2005, 11:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 2-August 04 From: cincinnati Member No.: 2,432 |
good advise...
i was planning on doing the 19mm mc if i did do the 911 calipers and besides who knows what shape mine is in. ill check out the ball joints and see what kind i have im currently running 160lb front springs so im gonna need a 22mm front welt bar-my est- and perhaps some bigger torsions. ANyone have any 911 front hubs fs if these dont come with them? |
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