Stainless Steel 914-6 Heat Exchangers?, Anyone running these? |
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Stainless Steel 914-6 Heat Exchangers?, Anyone running these? |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 30 2014, 08:17 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 10,057 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Hi everyone- Scotty and I were talking and I want to keep the heat functioning in my Six when the 3.2 goes in. I found these heat exchangers:
http://www.haywardandscott.com/914-6-perfo...exchangers.html They build to suit, so I am thinking I can get them to accommodate the 3.2 without much trouble. I have sent them a message but not heard back yet. Is anyone here running these or seen them in person? Comments welcome. Thanks, Michael |
Mark Henry |
Aug 30 2014, 08:24 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I heard they are nice...but very spendy.
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mepstein |
Aug 30 2014, 09:46 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think Johnny blackstain has an uninstalled set. Bought a couple years ago. I called the company last year and they were responsive to my question and seemed to know what they were talking about. They are at the top of my list for heat exchangers for my 6. They do have welds in the heater box but I expect to die from other causes first.
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 30 2014, 06:24 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,051 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
As long as they're not the Billy Boat ones. (B&B) The fit on those is somewhat problematic.
--DD |
horizontally-opposed |
Aug 30 2014, 09:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,444 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
The great, great pity—if true—is that SSI did ALL of the work to produce 914-6 heat exchangers just as nice as their 911 and 914-4 heat exchangers, but never produced them for two reasons:
1. The owner of SSI didn't think there was a big enough market for them. 2. He couldn't quite get one side to be true equal length. I am told the discrepancy is so negligible as to be no performance detriment. The owner has since sold SSI to Dansk or some overseas company, but I hear that he got to keep all of the 914-6 tooling and specs he prepared. I wonder if there wouldn't be a way to get a group buy going to convince him to make them? There are a lot of us who really want a good solution, and nothing beats SSIs when it comes to heat exchangers. Thoughts? |
billh1963 |
Aug 31 2014, 05:36 AM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,404 Joined: 28-March 11 From: North Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
The great, great pity—if true—is that SSI did ALL of the work to produce 914-6 heat exchangers just as nice as their 911 and 914-4 heat exchangers, but never produced them for two reasons: 1. The owner of SSI didn't think there was a big enough market for them. 2. He couldn't quite get one side to be true equal length. I am told the discrepancy is so negligible as to be no performance detriment. The owner has since sold SSI to Dansk or some overseas company, but I hear that he got to keep all of the 914-6 tooling and specs he prepared. I wonder if there wouldn't be a way to get a group buy going to convince him to make them? There are a lot of us who really want a good solution, and nothing beats SSIs when it comes to heat exchangers. Thoughts? That's an intriguing idea! |
rudedude |
Aug 31 2014, 07:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 516 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
i'd be in for a set if it happened. The ssi's on my 911 are beautiful.
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JmuRiz |
Aug 31 2014, 07:38 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,503 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I'd be in for a set!
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PanelBilly |
Aug 31 2014, 10:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,844 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Does anybody here has a way to connect with him. Maybe he wants to sell off the tooling.
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 31 2014, 10:59 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,641 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Roll call ! Who's in ?
I'm in. |
ben*james |
Aug 31 2014, 11:07 AM
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LIFER Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-February 09 From: Portland Oregon Member No.: 10,062 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Very interested!
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bigkensteele |
Aug 31 2014, 12:19 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
Also in.
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scotty b |
Aug 31 2014, 12:23 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
Sure there is a lot of interest, but who many of the interested are ready to drop 2500.00 + to have them made ? I'd say there is a good chance Dansk would make them, but if it were my business I'd want orders pre paid before I started production on such a limited run. So who's ready to drop the dough and possibly wait half a year + to get their return ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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rick 918-S |
Aug 31 2014, 01:23 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,730 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
$ 2500.00 is a tough nut. I would want more details. (real price for a group buy, delivery, shipping,etc) But wouldn't it be nice to have a new set of SSI's instead of patching up some old rusty nasty OEM set?
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scotty b |
Aug 31 2014, 01:46 PM
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rust free you say ? Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
I threw out 2500.00 as a set for 911's run around 2000.00 I'm guessing a bit more due to the small audience, and the extra expense in materials ( longer tubing ) Plus we are now talking about shipping form Denmark to U.S. which 'taint gonna be cheap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'll try and contact them this week to see IF they have any intent or interest in producing them, and if they do, what would the price be for "X " number of guaranteed sales. I would however like to see at least 10 people in for it, before contacting. It would probably help the cause to be able to say I have X amount of people truly interested. this is why I would say to plan on 2-2500.00. I guess I'll start a poll (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 31 2014, 04:05 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,641 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I'd be concerned that Dansk would produce a product as fine as the 911 HE's. Also, that they will look very close to originals.
There are probably as many 914 6 's on the road now in the US as there ever were, but many are conversions and are strictly toys for performance. Heat ? no thanks... most would opt for an oil cooler. And need larger pipes. I want this very badly based on the quality of the original 911 SSI's. Do I need them on my good weather car ? No, I have some very good originals. They'll probably outlast me. Maybe I'm over thinking this. If they are made I'll have to choose between keeping good originals or selling them to buy stainless that will outlast us and our cars. I'm in up to $2500. And please! at least one larger ID choice for our bigger engine cars. |
mepstein |
Aug 31 2014, 04:42 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,578 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Sure there is a lot of interest, but who many of the interested are ready to drop 2500.00 + to have them made ? I'd say there is a good chance Dansk would make them, but if it were my business I'd want orders pre paid before I started production on such a limited run. So who's ready to drop the dough and possibly wait half a year + to get their return ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I would be in. I'm not holding my breath but I would have the money ready to go If they committed to a run. |
sbsix |
Sep 1 2014, 05:46 PM
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only the lead dog enjoys a change in scenery... Group: Members Posts: 453 Joined: 10-January 12 From: Santa Barbara, CA Member No.: 13,990 Region Association: Southern California |
Based on $2,500 and close to OE in looks & function, I'd go for a set.
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Dave_Darling |
Sep 1 2014, 06:26 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,051 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Don't hold your breath... Let's just say that certain people have a history of promising a lot with no intention of delivering.
--DD |
ConeDodger |
Sep 1 2014, 07:18 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,799 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Don't hold your breath... Let's just say that certain people have a history of promising a lot with no intention of delivering. --DD John will talk to you... All day in fact, as long as you don't like the same people (person) he doesn't like. I assume DD and I are talking about the same bit of history... Mark Whitesell was talking to him about the tooling, maybe just 4 cylinder but I hooked him up with contact information. |
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