a 912 e question about smogin california Options

[rosenfe]

i know its not a 914 but similar engine.im looking to buy one.owner had engine rebuilt 100 miles ago,nice car,but thermals are gone.he says that if it fails smog and ca. state bar cannot locate new thermasl,it gets a waiver.is this true and are new thermasl nla?.


i would prefer not put them on anyway.parts haven says nla.

[jim_hoyland]

Is the car currently registered in CA ? If so, the buy has to have it smog tested...

[rosenfe]

Is the car currently registered in CA ? If so, the buy has to have it smog tested...

No,and part of purchase deal is buyer take care of it.i know seller has responsibility.car is at a local porsche shop that rebuilt engine.

[mikesmith]

In California it is the *seller's* responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is in compliance with emissions regulations at the time of sale (typically a smog cert no more than 90 days old is required).

If the "deal" is that the buyer has to take care of smog, then the "deal" is that the buyer is giving the seller a bunch of money in return for ... nothing.

[EdwardBlume]

100% correct. Sellers responsibility. What year is the 912? Do you really think you can go to a referee and get it passed? What about a year or two later and every year?

Your best bet is to change the oil, get the motor as hot as you can, use premium fuel and see how it tests.

Not sure if CA still does this but you can try for a BAR? tag. Where your car get exempted but I hear these are few and hard to get.

[EdwardBlume]

When I still had to smog the '74 I drove everywhere and most of the smog shops refused to even test it claiming they didn't know any of the adjustments.

Glad its exempt...

[rosenfe]

bar tag may be the way to go,especially as thermal reactors are no longer available.912 e was only made for onv year in 76

[Joe Bob]

76 912 E in CA? Runaway.......one year only with NLA smog parts.

[veekry9]

Certainly,a clause exists that allows the exceeding of mandated restrictions.
Better than,Cleaner than.

[Cuda911]

^^^ Nope. The retarded CARB left no such exemption.

[Mike Bellis]

To get an exemption you must:

1) have ALL smog equipment installed.
2) prove you have spent money, over the DMV threshold trying to get it smoged.
3) vehicle cannot be a gross polluter.
4) take it to a referee station to verify above.
5) apply for exemption (cross your fingers).

If you have not completed all of the above, no dice.

[Cap'n Krusty]

Add to that, the car has to have failed and the money spent at a repair shop licensed specifically to do emissions repairs on a failed vehicle. You can't just take it anywhere.

The Cap'n

[pete000]

Smog pulley bracket and bearings are not replaceable and many are missing over the years. In CA having a 76 914 or 912 is like having the black plague !

Not worth the pain and suffering with the SMOG Police IMHO...

[Maltese Falcon]

...and after you locate all of these items, install them and tune the car to smog spec and get it to pass; do it again every 2 years thereafter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
If you have a static Porsche collection keep it, otherwise sell it out of state, or out of country.These are low production # collectibles, and should bring in some good cash.
Marty

[914Mike]

Smog pulley bracket and bearings are not replaceable and many are missing over the years. In CA having a 76 914 or 912 is like having the black plague !

Not worth the pain and suffering with the SMOG Police IMHO...

Exactly.

The only way out that makes any sense is to convert it to electric, then there's no smog test ever again. You can fit as many miles worth of batteries as you can afford...

[Elliot Cannon]

The "buyer" is responsible for a smog check The "seller" is responsible for a smog check. Is this place a good source of the law? I always go to the CHP and document who gives me the answer. Be very careful asking for legal advice. There are lots of "barracks lawyers" out there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[jcd914]

From "http://www.bar.ca.gov/Consumer/Referee/RefereeCenters.html"

Hard to Find Emission Parts Locator Service

The Referee offers a Hard to Find Emission Parts Locator Service to assist consumers whose vehicles fail Smog Check inspections because of missing or modified emission-related parts that are difficult to find.

The vehicle may be eligible for a Limited Parts Exemption if the Referee confirms the part is not available. Consumers requesting a Limited Parts Exemption must have their vehicle inspected by a Referee Center.

The Hard to Find Emissions Parts Locator Service can be reached at (800) 622-7733.

[dlkawashima]

The "buyer" is responsible for a smog check The "seller" is responsible for a smog check. Is this place a good source of the law? I always go to the CHP and document who gives me the answer. Be very careful asking for legal advice. There are lots of "barracks lawyers" out there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It's easy enough to look this up at the DMV website ... seller's responsibility

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/smogfaq

[veekry9]

The ultimate in aircooled technology available today applied to the 60-70's products
would certainly improve the emissions count.
I haven't read of anyone adapting direct injection variable valve timing and modern cats to the engines.Running a late model liquid cooled h4-6 demands that the engines smog equipment is intact,right?The sniffer does a comparator curve fitting routine for the model of engine or vehicle or both?

[rosenfe]

i just spoke to ca state bar.they said:if car fails smog and has been found to be missing smog parts,then they do a part search,if they cannot locate part i get a exemption.doesnt sound so bad,i want the car and ill work through the smog procedure.