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> is this the new poor mans porsc(ha), 300 hp is pretty attractive
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post Nov 22 2015, 01:42 AM
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5311868229.html


Is this 12 k well spent
Or
A suckers born every day type of deal




I know there's another recent thread about these soulest cars and how trading in your

Teener. For this

But for this price I mean performance per $

Is there a better value possible ?

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post Nov 22 2015, 03:52 AM
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It'll be worth a lot more than that ... in 50 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Even early 912's are becoming 'un-affordable' ... check this out: Link

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post Nov 22 2015, 04:53 AM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ Nov 22 2015, 01:52 AM) *

It'll be worth a lot more than that ... in 50 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Even early 912's are becoming 'un-affordable' ... check this out: Link

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That makes me smile (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I bought an early 912 from 66 before the prices went through the roof. I paid about $5800 for it almost 4 years ago. Mind you it was a wreck with a lot of rust and its cost me an arm and a leg to renovate and still not finished.
To tell you the truth I prefer the 914


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post Nov 22 2015, 06:18 AM
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Our shop has one that we use as a dd/ parts getter. Leave in a parking lot, drive in the rain, pick up lunch, whatever. Lights and buzzers go off. No idea what it means. Just ignor it all.
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post Nov 22 2015, 06:58 AM
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post Nov 22 2015, 07:05 AM
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Not to profile the seller but..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 22 2015, 07:06 AM
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Price is maybe a couple thousand underpriced, I would have put a 15,000 tag on it, but with that said it's not out of line for what 97 to 2004 HIGH mileage 996s are selling for. Probably got offered 8,000 thousand from the dealer and got his feelings hurt. I know it seems odd but I think being a convert hurts it's value.
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The 996 was never well received by the purists. Say what you want I have had my 02 for 4 years. I drive the snot out of it and it has been flawless. best money I ever spent on a car.
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post Nov 22 2015, 09:15 AM
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As I stated in that other thread, I may abandon my search for a 914 in favor of a 996. There are so many out there and the prices keep falling. Sure its ugly (for a 911) has some problems, and it's water cooled, but it's still a 911...
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post Nov 22 2015, 09:26 AM
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As long as the intermediate shaft bearing doesn't let go, use it as a daily driver! If it needs an engine rebuild from the intermediate shaft bearing or damage from a water pump failure, it's a $20,000 engine rebuild. Wonder why their prices are low?
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post Nov 22 2015, 10:51 AM
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Looks like a good car for a decent price
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post Nov 22 2015, 11:33 AM
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If I was to own one of those, I would never call it a 911. It's a 996 and for good reason. When they first came out I thought the design was appalling, but over time it has really grown on me. Unfortunately they lie on the other side of the line when it comes to complexity, making ownership for the average shade tree mechanic just not feasible.

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post Nov 22 2015, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 22 2015, 04:18 AM) *

Our shop has one that we use as a dd/ parts getter. Leave in a parking lot, drive in the rain, pick up lunch, whatever. Lights and buzzers go off. No idea what it means. Just ignor it all.




He yell Thats the kinda driving experience I'm talking about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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QUOTE(GeorgeRud @ Nov 22 2015, 07:26 AM) *

As long as the intermediate shaft bearing doesn't let go, use it as a daily driver! If it needs an engine rebuild from the intermediate shaft bearing or damage from a water pump failure, it's a $20,000 engine rebuild. Wonder why their prices are low?




Yeh I get the whole it could be .12 k paper weight if.the im. S failed

And that does scare me but I thought that after 100k and on the 3.6 probability of that failure is

Less


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post Nov 22 2015, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Ansbacher @ Nov 22 2015, 09:33 AM) *

If I was to own one of those, I would never call it a 911. It's a 996 and for good reason. When they first came out I thought the design was appalling, but over time it has really grown on me. Unfortunately they lie on the other side of the line when it comes to complexity, making ownership for the average shade tree mechanic just not feasible.

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Of course I agreed with you about complexity being a issue as cost will skyrocket and
It takes the labor savings away from shadetree guys who could save a bunch of $ by

Diy

So sensors and coil packs are a pain in as s .


While it's running smooth are the good times

When it fucckks up , your held hostage by a repair shop

Not fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)



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post Nov 22 2015, 12:17 PM
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I have a 996. Use it for my DD. Fantastic car.

Tons of guys I know do their own maintenance.

The one in the ad seems suspicious to me.

Attached is a current spread sheet of pretty much every 996 for sale, compiled from numerous separate advertisement sources.

Obtained from search engines for Autotrader, Craigslist (Autotempest), eBay, CarMax, CarGurus and more. with daily/weekly updates.


Includes:
Ownership History and Score per paid-for Autocheck
VIN
Mileage
Location
Owner or Dealer Car
Modifications
Interior/Exterior Color
Contact Information and Listing link

And, lastly, a Basic Ranking System to thin the herd.

This spreadsheet is the closest thing you'll see to getting a real indication on what's happening in the market.

1st Tab: 996s . This includes mostly all cars under $30k

2nd Tab: 996/997 Turbos .


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Attached File  996_price_spread_sheet___2015.xls ( 285k ) Number of downloads: 123
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post Nov 22 2015, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(Cuda911 @ Nov 22 2015, 10:17 AM) *

I have a 996. Use it for my DD. Fantastic car. The one in the ad seems suspicious to me.

Attached is a current spread sheet of pretty much every 996 for sale, compiled from numerous separate advertisement sources.

Obtained from search engines for Autotrader, Craigslist (Autotempest), eBay, CarMax, CarGurus and more. with daily/weekly updates.


Includes:
Ownership History and Score per paid-for Autocheck
VIN
Mileage
Location
Owner or Dealer Car
Modifications
Interior/Exterior Color
Contact Information and Listing link

And, lastly, a Basic Ranking System to thin the herd.

This spreadsheet is the closest thing you'll see to getting a real indication on what's happening in the market.

1st Tab: 996s . This includes mostly all cars under $30k

2nd Tab: 996/997 Turbos .



















The one in the ad seems suspicious to me.



Please do elaborate

Just because of the price or sorta vague description ?
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post Nov 22 2015, 03:21 PM
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........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) 996 Turbos can be had for under $40k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)
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........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) 996 Turbos can be had for under $40k (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)



Don't tempt me!

On list of cars to buy in the near future once house is paid for!
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http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5311868229.html


Is this 12 k well spent
Or
A suckers born every day type of deal




I know there's another recent thread about these soulest cars and how trading in your

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But for this price I mean performance per $

Is there a better value possible ?

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It doesn't like any oils.
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