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Steering very hard |
carcus |
May 23 2016, 04:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 16-March 16 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 19,760 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
My last 914 was pretty easy to steer. I even replaced the stock wheel with an aftermarket smaller one. Wondering from the great experience here on what to look at for replacement. Steering is worse than an old truck.
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SirAndy |
May 23 2016, 04:08 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Steering is worse than an old truck. Hmmm, it shouldn't be. I have the same size steering wheel as you and neither my 225x50 street tires nor my 10" slicks are hard to steer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) |
ndfrigi |
May 23 2016, 04:16 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,933 Joined: 21-August 11 From: Orange County Member No.: 13,474 Region Association: Southern California |
Alignment? my 75 use to have a hard steering like having a newer car with non working power steering. did a manual alignment inside my garage and it changed a lot then replace old tires and it improved more. maybe with a good shop alignment and it make it perfect but for now I have a better steering.
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carcus |
May 23 2016, 04:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 16-March 16 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 19,760 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Steering is worse than an old truck. Hmmm, it shouldn't be. I have the same size steering wheel as you and neither my 225x50 street tires nor my 10" slicks are hard to steer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Right now have some used 165/80/R15 tires on it that are a little tall. Would you think this could be the issue and I need some lower profile tires? They are on Riviera rims |
SirAndy |
May 23 2016, 04:19 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Right now have some used 165/80/R15 tires on it that are a little tall. Would you think this could be the issue and I need some lower profile tires? They are on Riviera rims No. 165s should not be hard to steer. Ever. Something else is going on ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
yeahmag |
May 23 2016, 04:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,422 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California |
Lot's of caster will make it hard(er) to turn the wheel.
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carcus |
May 23 2016, 04:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 16-March 16 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 19,760 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Right now have some used 165/80/R15 tires on it that are a little tall. Would you think this could be the issue and I need some lower profile tires? They are on Riviera rims No. 165s should not be hard to steer. Ever. Something else is going on ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Yep, that is what I need to figure out. Turning the wheel takes alot of effort. The tire size is OEM on it. I have no suspension work on it. There is no strange camber I can see. |
76-914 |
May 23 2016, 04:30 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,509 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Any slack in the steering wheel?
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mepstein |
May 23 2016, 05:39 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Something is wrong. Try alignment first.
Actually, jack up the front of the car, try turning the wheels, if they turn easily, check alignment. |
Kansas 914 |
May 23 2016, 05:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Actually, jack up the front of the car, try turning the wheels, if they turn easily, check alignment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
ConeDodger |
May 23 2016, 06:56 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,614 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
The smaller wheel is actually harder to turn than the larger stock wheel, so there's that. Not trying to be insulting, but we have to cover the basics, what is your tire pressure? Low tire pressure will increase effort. Caster is a big one as far as effort is concerned. Older tires can be a bear to turn as well...
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stugray |
May 23 2016, 09:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,825 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
One simple thing to check: jack up the front and see if you can turn the wheels with your hands ..on the wheel.
You should be able to spin it stop to stop with fairly low effort. |
carcus |
May 23 2016, 10:55 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 16-March 16 From: Colorado Springs Member No.: 19,760 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
One simple thing to check: jack up the front and see if you can turn the wheels with your hands ..on the wheel. You should be able to spin it stop to stop with fairly low effort. Thanks to all for the input. All of the wheel bearings are shot, the tire pressure is right on so that is taken care of. I have 2 rear calipers going on, all 4 new brake discs and front and rear wheel bearings. Once those are in I will get the allignment. Now, if all that fails...what would be next if problem is not solved? |
mepstein |
May 24 2016, 04:19 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,316 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
One simple thing to check: jack up the front and see if you can turn the wheels with your hands ..on the wheel. You should be able to spin it stop to stop with fairly low effort. Thanks to all for the input. All of the wheel bearings are shot, the tire pressure is right on so that is taken care of. I have 2 rear calipers going on, all 4 new brake discs and front and rear wheel bearings. Once those are in I will get the allignment. Now, if all that fails...what would be next if problem is not solved? It doesn't make sense to answer "what if" questions if your not going to do the initial diagnosis - i.e. Jack up the car, as well as fixing your known problems. |
1stworks |
May 24 2016, 07:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 31-March 13 From: colorado Member No.: 15,718 Region Association: None |
One simple thing to check: jack up the front and see if you can turn the wheels with your hands ..on the wheel. You should be able to spin it stop to stop with fairly low effort. Thanks to all for the input. All of the wheel bearings are shot, the tire pressure is right on so that is taken care of. I have 2 rear calipers going on, all 4 new brake discs and front and rear wheel bearings. Once those are in I will get the allignment. Now, if all that fails...what would be next if problem is not solved? One step at a time. Jack the front up and try moving the wheel with tires. |
toolguy |
May 24 2016, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
Lot's of caster will make it hard(er) to turn the wheel. Plus One for this. . too much caster means the angle of rotation is leaning backward, Think of a chopper motorcycle front end. What happens is the weight of the car forces the wheels to track straight ahead, and when you try to turn you are in essence lifting the front end with the steering wheel. . |
mskala |
May 24 2016, 11:23 AM
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R Group: Members Posts: 1,925 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 79 Region Association: None |
Also look for bent parts in tie-rod ends/tie-rods/ends-of-rack.
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Dave_Darling |
May 24 2016, 01:06 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
The U-joints in the column might be binding.
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