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post Jun 1 2016, 10:18 PM
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$209 for the pair? Sounds too good to be true. Anyone have any experience with these?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1934155

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post Jun 1 2016, 10:22 PM
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But I don't think it will fit into the tight bucket space. If you decide to do this take pictures and let us know
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:23 PM
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I thought that was a household 110v plug at 1st (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:33 PM
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Wow and a claim of 4000 lumen output! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

Stoddard sells similar headlights for $289 a pair
http://www.stoddard.com/64463110631-smd.html

I've still been too cheap to do headlights (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:36 PM
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Cool. I would need to see a beam pattern before buying. I also would be concerned about how far the bulb base sticks out.


Much cheaper than the proven GE Nighthawks

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BQX2BT8?pc_redir=T1
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:42 PM
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I have a sneaking suspicion that they might actually fit. Like an idiot, I lost whatever measurements I had of my HID light solution when I made the ones in the picture below (had to make fiberglass light covers just to get them in there), but it was a significant gain in length, maybe 3 inches. These don't look like they protrude nearly that much. I'll see if I can get an answer from the manufacturer, or maybe even a test pair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jun 1 2016, 10:42 PM
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Looks promising. Some modification would be required.
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:47 PM
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The other model they sell is even cheaper, still almost 2x as bright as H4s, no extra ballast hanging off and $159...plug and play?

http://www.vintagecarleds.com/#!produc...d2-b07e33de5cbe
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post Jun 1 2016, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(eric9144 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:47 PM) *

The other model they sell is even cheaper, still almost 2x as bright as H4s, no extra ballast hanging off and $159...plug and play?

http://www.vintagecarleds.com/#!produc...d2-b07e33de5cbe



1200 less lumens to save .. $50...probably not worth it. ^^
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post Jun 2 2016, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(matthepcat @ Jun 1 2016, 10:21 PM) *

QUOTE(eric9144 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:47 PM) *

The other model they sell is even cheaper, still almost 2x as bright as H4s, no extra ballast hanging off and $159...plug and play?

http://www.vintagecarleds.com/#!produc...d2-b07e33de5cbe



1200 less lumens to save .. $50...probably not worth it. ^^


Yeah, but it looks like it'd fit without mods.
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post Jun 2 2016, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(mrholland2 @ Jun 2 2016, 09:52 AM) *

QUOTE(matthepcat @ Jun 1 2016, 10:21 PM) *

QUOTE(eric9144 @ Jun 1 2016, 09:47 PM) *

The other model they sell is even cheaper, still almost 2x as bright as H4s, no extra ballast hanging off and $159...plug and play?

http://www.vintagecarleds.com/#!produc...d2-b07e33de5cbe



1200 less lumens to save .. $50...probably not worth it. ^^


Yeah, but it looks like it'd fit without mods.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That's where I was going with that too
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post Jun 2 2016, 11:39 AM
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Is there a law covering how bright the lights can be? I know the blue lights ricers use are blinding.

How does 4000 compare to H4?
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post Jun 2 2016, 12:02 PM
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BULB TYPE WATTAGE LUMENS (high/low)
9003/HB2 60/55 1590/980
H4 Rallye 70/65 2000/1350
H4 Rallye 85/80 2400/1750
H4 Rallye 100/90 2400/1620
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The "ricer lights" you see ...also on lifted "bro trucks" are a product of installing HID lights into halogen housings. (Its a personal pet peeve of mine)

Basically people not doing an HID headlight conversion using HID projectors that control the HID light signature.

I did a HID conversion on my Subaru, but sourced projectors from an Acura TSX. Stick the headlight in the oven at 200 degrees, split the headlight housing and install the projectors from an HID car.

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QUOTE(bandjoey @ Jun 2 2016, 10:39 AM) *

Is there a law covering how bright the lights can be? I know the blue lights ricers use are blinding.

How does 4000 compare to H4?

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post Jun 2 2016, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Jun 1 2016, 08:18 PM) *



Amazon has a few vendors that sell LED headlights that appear identical to the GE Nighthawks (which themselves are identical to the Trucklite LEDs") for ~140 a pair. I haven't personally tried the nighthawks due to the price, but the sets I got for $140 were worth it. I have them installed on my Vanagon and 2 of my 914s. They make a HUGE difference for night driving and are a "safe" plug and play upgrade as they have less current draw than even stock headlights (something like only 3amp)

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Side by side output with LED on the left and stock highbeam on the right. The white light on the far right is actually coming from the LED headlight on the left. One of these casts way more light than a pair of stock bulbs. They made an even lager difference on the 914s, due to the old wiring/voltage drop, the LEDs are pretty much un affected by it. The vans stock headlights were not bad whereas the 914s were near useless.

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post Jun 2 2016, 01:28 PM
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Nice. Any issues installing on the 914?
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post Jun 2 2016, 01:32 PM
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Bolt on, nothing else needed

http://www.amazon.com/YITAMOTOR-Round-Head...ailpage_o02_s00

or

http://www.amazon.com/WHDZ-Headlight-Wrang...ailpage_o00_s00

They are listed as different brands but are the exact same light, there are a few others for sale that are exactly the same as well.

Whats really odd about them, looking at them head on they appear to be much dimmer, but man they REALLY light up the road, especially reflective signs.

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QUOTE(RobW @ Jun 2 2016, 11:28 AM) *

Nice. Any issues installing on the 914?


No issues with the lights, they are direct plug in, even correctly notched for the headlight housings. Only issues I encountered were my 45 year old plastic connectors and headlight adjusters falling apart.
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post Jun 2 2016, 02:02 PM
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I've looked into it....they won't fit on the backside.
The bucket on an aircooled beetle is deeper than the 914.

Something like this would fit because you can fold the heatsink out of the way.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-20W-H4-Hi-Lo-...odm&vxp=mtr


BTW those are less than $20ea housings (off of most VWbug dealers) with a $70 LED kit like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-160W-16000LM-...Xl4&vxp=mtr

Note: I didn't look at the vendor or specs on the above examples, I quickly grabbed them as an "style" example only.
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BTW the average LED headlight bulb will lose about 30% of it's brightness after about a year. If it's too bright it will likely tone down after awhile.
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