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> Alternator bracket, broken again.
Elliot Cannon
post Oct 1 2016, 06:04 PM
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After the lengthy thread about alternators, I decided I should look into why mine is rattling so badly. This is the second bracket that has broken in less than a year. I was thinking of welding it back together and adding a doubler in the form of a washer or just fabricating a whole new one out of thicker steel. Any ideas why it might have broken in the first place? Is it possible I tightened the belt too tight? Is it possible it is vibrating so much it fatigued the metal?


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post Oct 1 2016, 06:06 PM
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40 year old steel?
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post Oct 1 2016, 06:08 PM
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Surprisingly, I believe they are still available new from the dealer.
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post Oct 1 2016, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 1 2016, 05:06 PM) *

40 year old steel?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Hell, I'm 70 and I know how I feel after lengthy vibration. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 1 2016, 08:34 PM
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Like most of my welding repairs, this one is also ugly but serviceable. I welded a washer to act as a "doubler". I got it installed, adjusted belt tension and will put a few miles on it tomorrow. Maybe I'll order a new one. Like new 40 year old steel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Oct 1 2016, 11:04 PM
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Hah all good ,that will hold on no problems seen worse welding.
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post Oct 2 2016, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(porschetub @ Oct 1 2016, 10:04 PM) *

Hah all good ,that will hold on no problems seen worse welding.


So, you've seen some of my other stuff then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 2 2016, 11:59 AM
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The lower bolt is in place and tight?
All the fan blades are intact?
Alternator pulley out of round / bent?

Maybe you need to get your belt balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)
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post Oct 2 2016, 12:54 PM
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Couldn't help but notice that the hole was oval. What caused that? Was it loose once?My rule of thumb minimum; the distance between the edge of the bolt hole and the edge of the metal should equal the drilled hole diameter. You've basically corrected that with the washer and the welds resulted in nice filets which will add strength.
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post Oct 2 2016, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 2 2016, 10:59 AM) *

The lower bolt is in place and tight?
All the fan blades are intact?
Alternator pulley out of round / bent?

Maybe you need to get your belt balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


I have an idea that I'll be looking for a new alternator in the future. I have noticed since the repair that the alternator is making a pretty loud whining noise. Maybe a bearing issue. Anyway, if I'm going to install a seat heater in the car, I might need more of them amp things to work with. Till then it's producing 13.8 volts at low rpm. I took my belt into NAPA and they balanced it on their dynamic belt balancing and tension setting machine. You should get one of those for your shop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 2 2016, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 2 2016, 02:20 PM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 2 2016, 10:59 AM) *

The lower bolt is in place and tight?
All the fan blades are intact?
Alternator pulley out of round / bent?

Maybe you need to get your belt balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


I have an idea that I'll be looking for a new alternator in the future. I have noticed since the repair that the alternator is making a pretty loud whining noise. Maybe a bearing issue. Anyway, if I'm going to install a seat heater in the car, I might need more of them amp things to work with. Till then it's producing 13.8 volts at low rpm. I took my belt into NAPA and they balanced it on their dynamic belt balancing and tension setting machine. You should get one of those for your shop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


My alternator started whining before it went haywire. Friend told me when the diodes start failing you will start hearing things. Taking it out and man-handling it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) probably started the unit on the downhill path. Get a Bosch from Pelican while they are in stock!
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post Oct 3 2016, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(76-914 @ Oct 2 2016, 02:54 PM) *

Couldn't help but notice that the hole was oval. What caused that?

The hole was actually made like that, to allow for adjustment. When I cleaned and painted the sheet metal on my engine last winter, my bracket had the same slot.
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 2 2016, 02:20 PM) *

QUOTE(McMark @ Oct 2 2016, 10:59 AM) *

The lower bolt is in place and tight?
All the fan blades are intact?
Alternator pulley out of round / bent?

Maybe you need to get your belt balanced. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hide.gif)


I have an idea that I'll be looking for a new alternator in the future. I have noticed since the repair that the alternator is making a pretty loud whining noise. Maybe a bearing issue. Anyway, if I'm going to install a seat heater in the car, I might need more of them amp things to work with. Till then it's producing 13.8 volts at low rpm. I took my belt into NAPA and they balanced it on their dynamic belt balancing and tension setting machine. You should get one of those for your shop. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



I can get ine of my spare alternators rebuilt at a local shop. They charge me $75. I need 25 for the core. Commercial rebuilds are crap and hard to find.
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