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Squeaky squeaky, somewhere in the front suspension |
iankarr |
Jul 30 2017, 05:26 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,481 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Hi guys,
My car has developed a strange nearly constant squeak. I originally thought is was coming from under the dash, but I now think it's in the front left suspension. It seems to be worse on a relatively level road...as if something is rubbing in a squeaky sweet spot. When I push down on the left front fender I def hear a squeak, though it's not quite as high pitched as when I'm driving. The really strange part is that sometimes the squeak goes a away completely....and then returns from out of the blue. Any ideas? Thanks! |
rfinegan |
Jul 30 2017, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
my sway bar squeaked only on one side and I fixed it by tapping a grease fitting and adding grease from time to time....
Hi guys, My car has developed a strange nearly constant squeak. I originally thought is was coming from under the dash, but I now think it's in the front left suspension. It seems to be worse on a relatively level road...as if something is rubbing in a squeaky sweet spot. When I push down on the left front fender I def hear a squeak, though it's not quite as high pitched as when I'm driving. The really strange part is that sometimes the squeak goes a away completely....and then returns from out of the blue. Any ideas? Thanks! |
iankarr |
Jul 30 2017, 05:40 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,481 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Thanks but alas, no sway bar on my car. Though I have SBE (sway bar envy).
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BillC |
Jul 30 2017, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 547 Joined: 24-April 15 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 18,667 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hi guys, My car has developed a strange nearly constant squeak. I originally thought is was coming from under the dash, but I now think it's in the front left suspension. It seems to be worse on a relatively level road...as if something is rubbing in a squeaky sweet spot. When I push down on the left front fender I def hear a squeak, though it's not quite as high pitched as when I'm driving. The really strange part is that sometimes the squeak goes a away completely....and then returns from out of the blue. Any ideas? Thanks! Those are exactly the same symptoms my car had. Turned out the control arm bushings needed to be replaced. The squeaking is because the rear bushings have sagged, letting the control arms rub on the torsion bars. I ended up installing the Elephant Racing bushings. They go on pretty easily, as long as you have a big, sturdy bar clamp and plenty of liquid dish washing soap. Hardest part was actually getting the old bushings off. |
rgalla9146 |
Jul 30 2017, 07:25 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,569 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Hey Ian
The squeak probably comes from the torsion touching the inside of the control arm. That leads to rust on the torsion bar and eventually the torsion bar breaks. Then that corner falls. Better inspect the torsion bars too. Rory |
iankarr |
Jul 31 2017, 08:51 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,481 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Thanks Rory and Brain Trust. Few questions...
– If I find that the control arm has scored the torsion bar, is that then a "must replace"? I know that on an axle, even a small score creates a weak spot where it can shear. Wondering if that's the same case with the front torsion bar....or is rust the primary concern since the metal is exposed in the scored area? – Since I'm going to have to change the control arm bushings, is there anything else I should replace "while I'm in there?". I'm sure I'll have to do an alignment when all is said and done, but is there anything I can do to keep the geometry close so driving it to the alignment shop isn't a terrifying tug-of-war? I assume marking everything will help, but wondering if there are special tricks.... Thanks! |
bdstone914 |
Jul 31 2017, 08:55 AM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,537 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
Thanks Rory and Brain Trust. Few questions... – If I find that the control arm has scored the torsion bar, is that then a "must replace"? I know that on an axle, even a small score creates a weak spot where it can shear. Wondering if that's the same case with the front torsion bar....or is rust the primary concern since the metal is exposed in the scored area? – Since I'm going to have to change the control arm bushings, is there anything else I should replace "while I'm in there?". I'm sure I'll have to do an alignment when all is said and done, but is there anything I can do to keep the geometry close so driving it to the alignment shop isn't a terrifying tug-of-war? I assume marking everything will help, but wondering if there are special tricks.... Thanks! That depends on the depth of the groove. Minor ones can be polished down. A ridge creates a stress riser where a crack can start. That them both out and inspect. You are probably going to need new bushings for both arms. |
Larmo63 |
Jul 31 2017, 09:10 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
As stated above, installing the rubber Elephant control arm bushings isn't all that hard. If you see wear on your torsion bars, they are easily available. I have a pretty clean set of stock ones and using something beefier/aftermarket, really stiffens up the front end.
I have a clean set of torsion bars available and I'm sure Bruce has quite a few sets too. |
iankarr |
Jul 31 2017, 12:02 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,481 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Cool. All great info. Would be interested in new bars. Please PM if you have good set. Would new / beefier bars make a huge difference? Def only want to do this once (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).
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Larmo63 |
Jul 31 2017, 12:32 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,264 Joined: 3-March 14 From: San Clemente, Ca Member No.: 17,068 Region Association: Southern California |
Mine are hollow 22mm and made a world of difference. I have new HD Bilsteins and the stock sway bar too, so that, along with five lug & SC struts makes for pretty solid handling.
I may do an aftermarket front sway bar after the /6 is running. |
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