Possible Bumper - Stampes steel Chromed- if interested OTHER thread to sign up, This is not a GB thread- at least mine - starting a new thread Options

[Mikey914]

I have a connection in Vietnam that can facilitate the purchase of these at a good price. I wanted to get Mark Henery's blessing on this before proceeding but if his deal is dead we would like to put together a GB on these. So pending Mark's response I've posted. We will not make you buy the rubber tops but will offer a discount on them as incentive to help push the thread. Specifics will be pending response from Mark.

[db9146]

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[mepstein]

Mark H. has put a lot of work and money into this. Thank you for respecting him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Mikey914]

I have reached out to him and let him know the thread is up, awaiting his comment. Either way I could use a set too.

[tygaboy]

I'd be interested in a set, with a no tits front.
Keep us posted as things come together.

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them.

We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers.

The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly

[mepstein]

we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them.

We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers.

The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly

George - It’s not cool to hyjack this thread.

[JOEPROPER]

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[peteyd]

we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them.

We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers.

The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly

Im not trying to start a dog fight here, nor do I have any interest in the matter, but if George has in fact paid for the tooling, then we have to respect that they should be exclusive to him. Why the manufacturer in Vietnam would sell them to someone else? that isn't ethical.

I am only saying this because tooling costs are huge. Im sure if anyone would have these tools made properly they would cost over 100k.

I know I would not want to have someone sell my product that I've paid for.

That is in fact if George does own the tooling.

Pete

[Mikey914]

we have and will always have plenty of these stainless bumpers on the shelf. We have them in front and rear without holes for bumper guards and also the rear early 70 style. We have long ago paid for the tooling for our exclusive perfect fit harrington product, as well as having perfect fit front and rear bumper guards and bumper top seals and the license plates that go in them.

We do not make the bumpers in the the GT variety, although we have made several of them over the years from standard chrome bumpers.

The tooling was costly, the bumpers are costly, the shipping from vietnam is costly, the import duty is costly

Im not trying to start a dog fight here, nor do I have any interest in the matter, but if George has in fact paid for the tooling, then we have to respect that they should be exclusive to him. Why the manufacturer in Vietnam would sell them to someone else? that isn't ethical.

I am only saying this because tooling costs are huge. Im sure if anyone would have these tools made properly they would cost over 100k.

I know I would not want to have someone sell my product that I've paid for.

That is in fact if George does own the tooling.

Pete

My contact has told me the gorge does not own the tooling on these. And then he does have the right to sell them. I'm awaiting word from Mark Henry to see where he stands.

[Chris914n6]

George - It’s not cool to hyjack this thread.

I am definitely not taking sides, buy I see Mikey do it often... it's only fair to let it go both ways.

Given that George has shown more of interest in our forum lately maybe he should start doing more things to improve AA's rep... like pulling a Mikey trick and announcing a GB... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif)

[gothspeed]

IMO:

The only way I can see these bumpers being sold 'outside' of the initial development deal, would be if tooling costs were funded 100% (or very near that) by the manufacturer. Initiating development by sending parts to be reproduced and funding initial batch runs should have value. Permissions, arrangements or notifications should be made before 'outside' deals are made.

Example: I participate in development and order 100 units, I would NOT expect the manufacturer to begin making and selling those same items before I have a chance to sell all or at least a good portion of my initial order. And if I held an option for further orders during initial agreements. It would indeed be unethical for the manufacturer to begin offering items outside of the deal. Unless of course I defaulted or failed to keep my end of the initial agreement.

[peteyd]

My contact has told me the gorge does not own the tooling on these. And then he does have the right to sell them. I'm awaiting word from Mark Henry to see where he stands.

Ok cool beans.

give'r

[timothy_nd28]

Excuse my ignorance, if someone pays 100k for tooling/molds for something like this, why wouldn't that tool/mold be shipped along with the last batch made?

[Mikey914]

Not always. We do contract manufacturing and maintain tools for the customers that we do the manufacturing for. They don't own the tooling out right. But they own All rights to manufacture on that tooling.
My understanding in this scenario is that the tooling is owned in house. If George does truly own the tooling. There's no way we could do a group Buy.

[gothspeed]

Excuse my ignorance, if someone pays 100k for tooling/molds for something like this, why wouldn't that tool/mold be shipped along with the last batch made?

I agree, one would think so, this tooling 'ownership' should have been determined as to who owns what.

[Mikey914]

The contract that I've seen spells it out pretty clearly. Its product only.

[gothspeed]

If tooling is not owned by George. I wonder if there was any stipulation by George to prohibit any outside sales for a specified period of time?

[gandalf_025]

I bought mine 3 years ago....
here are the threads..

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=harrington

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...p;hl=harrington

[dr914@autoatlanta.com]

they have several sets. I had a set of tooling made that is exclusively mine along with the tow eye plug that I had them make.

However I suspect that something shifty is going on there as now everyone can get bumpers and according to them someone left their company with tooling as well. We sent bumpers back and forth quite a few times to get the best fitting product. They also recently sent us some bumpers that they had made from different tooling for us to fit, and they fit like CRAP!!!!!!!! Could not even mount the valance. Hence like a previous thread poster mentioned, there are good bumpers from them and there are ill fitting bumpers from them. MOST suppliers in our market can be trusted and for the last 40 years (yes we are celebrating 40 years in business this year) so it spoils one to trust everyone.