whats so wrong with kyb shocks, besides being inexpesive |
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whats so wrong with kyb shocks, besides being inexpesive |
messix |
Jun 16 2005, 06:49 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
looking for a good price for shocks.
amazing that once it fits a porsche the price goes up 400% i can get some very trick shocks for my truck or jeep for about $50 ea. but noooooo not for this volkswagon named porsche |
tat2dphreak |
Jun 16 2005, 06:54 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
when I pull my KYBs I'll sell 'em cheap... thing is: you get what you pay for...
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Mueller |
Jun 16 2005, 07:12 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
the normal units sold for our cars are too stiff (high pressure nitrogen), just 'cause you have a stiff suspension does not make it a good suspension...........
I've never seen a shock dyno chart for KYB, but I'd bet that they are valved wrong (if valved at all, I think they just fill 'em up too much) |
Trekkor |
Jun 16 2005, 07:22 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I had 'em on my first 914.
I really liked the feel. To me they feel like my Koni's on full firm. I like the adjustability of the Koni's. If I had another car and was on a tighter budget, I'd get the KYB's again. they didn't "kill my back" (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) KT |
MattR |
Jun 16 2005, 07:26 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) couldnt have said it better mike. Dampers dampen the spring's vibration. KYB got the nickname Kill Your Back/Butt for a reason; from what Ive heard/read they are just too high pressure and the valving isnt right for 914s. when is someone gonna pony up the cashola for ohlins or penskes on a 914? It'll double the value of a 4 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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tat2dphreak |
Jun 16 2005, 07:27 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
true, when they are still fresh, they are usable... the ones on my old teener were SHOT though... and they weren't that old(according to the POs receipts) and those were TORTURE!! |
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Series9 |
Jun 16 2005, 07:32 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
I have a pair sitting around. Make offer. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
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grantsfo |
Jun 16 2005, 07:34 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
KYB is a fine shock for the street. My car had them they felt fine with stock suspension. They lacked adjustability and firm dampening that Koni's offer. If you look around you can find KYB strut inserts for less than $50 ea. $42.90 to be exact. Those sound like VW prices to me. KYB's wear out more quickly than Koni or other high quality shocks/struts. If your not out for utlimate performance and dont care about replacing your shocks after 30,000 miles KYB can be a good cheap alternative. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/persm/po...rsche+914+Strut http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=porsch...=Search+Froogle |
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Dr Evil |
Jun 16 2005, 07:37 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,002 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I use them/have used them. I have no complaints.
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messix |
Jun 16 2005, 07:38 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
thank you for the responses.
i do have stock lowered suspension. how are the boges? any others that are reasonable [i'm a cheap sob]. i like value not most expensive. |
RoadGlue |
Jun 16 2005, 07:41 PM
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I've had them wear out in 1/2 that time too. I've tried KYB on both my 914 and my Fiat and am always impressed for the first few months, then they start to go "flat" rather quickly after that. Once they're gone, they're gone too. It's as if you aren't running shocks at all at that point. Just my experience. -- Randy |
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tat2dphreak |
Jun 16 2005, 07:42 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
me too... I looked around and bought used konis for the front, and lightly used Bils for the rear... $200 invested... KYB prices, but shocks that will last MUCH longer |
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Joe Bob |
Jun 16 2005, 07:42 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
They flat out bite....they need to improve to suck....
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grantsfo |
Jun 16 2005, 07:52 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Boges I have seen are around $100 ea. You can find Bilsteins for the same price. I'd get Bilsteins over the Boges. |
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Joe Bob |
Jun 16 2005, 07:53 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I still have a pair used...with 140 springs for 200...
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messix |
Jun 16 2005, 07:57 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
kybites or bils. or koni's |
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Brando |
Jun 17 2005, 12:05 AM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
I like my boge`ys (rear), I need new shocks up front (will be boges too). Increase to heavier springs and they get a little more response. I don't exactly like a stiff suspension that rattles my teeth out. If you've got good enough traction and can keep the wheels on the ground evenly, you shouldn't have to worry about how super-stiff your suspension is.
Then again, I'm following the methodology of softer shocks and freaking huge swaybars/tortion bars and zero-friction bushings. 180 springs in the rear. |
ematulac |
Jun 17 2005, 02:32 AM
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914 addict Group: Members Posts: 540 Joined: 24-November 03 From: Palmdale, CA Member No.: 1,382 |
I don't like my kyb's. They were on my 914 when I got it, and they are probably shot. At freeway speeds, I bounce around like a rubber ball. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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Joe Bob |
Jun 17 2005, 07:31 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
sorry...bils |
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seanery |
Jun 17 2005, 07:57 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
no offense intended here, but I think those that are happy with KYBs haven't used a good shock like a Koni adjustable. Bils are a bit harsh for my taste. I like Koni Yellows and their ride can be cushy or hard - your choice.
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