 My mid-engine crisis, What have I got? Let the inspection begin. |
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| mobymutt |
 Nov 25 2018, 07:01 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada  |
My mid-life crisis 914 has a very tired 1.8, that I was planning on rebuilding to a 2056. With that in mind, I purchased a 1.7 with unknown history that I was planning on putting in the car while rebuilding the 1.8.
The 1.7 came from an uncompleted project car, and has heads that look suspiciously clean from the outside. I am now wondering if there's a chance that somebody has already rebuilt this engine into something better than a stock 1.7. So... should I take the 1.7 apart to some degree to inspect, or just throw it into the car and run it per my original plan? Here's the 1.7:  |
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| Valy |
Nov 25 2018, 07:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 6-April 10 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 11,573 Region Association: Northern California |
I can say with 100% confidence that your engine case was opened, just from looking at the color of the sealant.
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| Coondog |
Nov 25 2018, 07:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California 
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Keep the engine out and clean, replace, fix all those little things that are easier with the engine out........fuel lines.
You live in Canada so you will be snowed in for the next 5 months so what’s the rush in driving your car.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| mobymutt |
Nov 25 2018, 09:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Coondog @ Nov 25 2018, 08:30 PM)  Keep the engine out and clean, replace, fix all those little things that are easier with the engine out........fuel lines. You live in Canada so you will be snowed in for the next 5 months so what’s the rush in driving your car.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) The 1.8 is still in the car. The problem with winter, is that I put my DD in the garage, which doesn't leave much room for working on the 914. I think I cleared just enough room for an engine stand though! |
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| mobymutt |
Nov 27 2018, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
I decided I might as well at least take off one of the heads. No use building up my other engine on the off chance that this one has already been upgraded.
Starting with the serial numbers, what do these indicate?   |
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| jcd914 |
Nov 27 2018, 10:01 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,096 Joined: 7-February 08 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 8,684 Region Association: Northern California |
The EA engine code means it started out as a 72 or 73 1.7L with F-jet.
Good starting point for a build, good case with the windage tray. You won't know condition or engine size until you open it up. Jim |
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| wes |
Nov 27 2018, 02:35 PM
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wes Group: Members Posts: 1,591 Joined: 8-December 07 From: Ukiah Ca Member No.: 8,436 Region Association: Northern California
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If the 1.8 is original to the car I’d save it and build the 1.7. That way if you should decide to sell the car in the future you can advertise it with the original numbers matching engine and the hot rod engine.
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| mobymutt |
Nov 27 2018, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(wes @ Nov 27 2018, 03:35 PM) If the 1.8 is original to the car I’d save it and build the 1.7. That way if you should decide to sell the car in the future you can advertise it with the original numbers matching engine and the hot rod engine. Hmm, that's an interesting thought. I'm not even sure how to check if the engine is original. I was going to use the 1.8 for the rebuild because I understood the ports were larger, and the larger pistons would fit onto the heads without any machining. |
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| 914_teener |
Nov 27 2018, 02:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,266 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
Stick with your plan. The best plan is to always have a driving car.
If you are lucky you will have at least a couple of years of driving the car before the 1.7 gives up..... if ever. |
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| mobymutt |
Nov 27 2018, 10:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
Well, I didn't quite get one of the heads off today, so no actual update. But I did want to say that using an engine stand is very nice. Somebody should have told me that last summer when I 'rebuilt' the 1.8 on my workbench.
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| mobymutt |
Nov 29 2018, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
Here's the fun stuff! I'm pretty pleased.
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| 1970-1914 |
Nov 29 2018, 11:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 3-June 18 From: Vancouver Member No.: 22,186 Region Association: Canada |
Awesome! I thought it all looked pretty new.
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| mobymutt |
Nov 30 2018, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 16-December 13 From: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 16,770 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(1970-1914 @ Nov 30 2018, 12:03 AM) Awesome! I thought it all looked pretty new. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) It's so nice, I've already lost motivation to rebuild the other one! I guess I can just take my time with it now. |
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| dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 30 2018, 09:08 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,185 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
if this 1.7 leaks down well, and the oil is clean, use it!
QUOTE(mobymutt @ Nov 25 2018, 06:01 PM) My mid-life crisis 914 has a very tired 1.8, that I was planning on rebuilding to a 2056. With that in mind, I purchased a 1.7 with unknown history that I was planning on putting in the car while rebuilding the 1.8. The 1.7 came from an uncompleted project car, and has heads that look suspiciously clean from the outside. I am now wondering if there's a chance that somebody has already rebuilt this engine into something better than a stock 1.7. So... should I take the 1.7 apart to some degree to inspect, or just throw it into the car and run it per my original plan? Here's the 1.7: |
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