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Bumper fitment issues |
mb911 |
Jun 13 2020, 03:49 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I am wondering if its a bumper top, bumper or car? The top is 914 rubber and was bought a year or so ago. The car is not bashed in any wear and the bumper was rechromed by Oscar about a year ago. It fits the same way on both sides starting at the headlights towards the out fender. Again both sides are the same.
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914Sixer |
Jun 13 2020, 05:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,897 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Bumper top rubber SHOULD lap over the flange under the turn signal bucket. What year car? 75-76 you have to cut off lip off body.
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Mikey914 |
Jun 13 2020, 06:31 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Do you have the rubber washers installed. If you look at the old bumper they tend to get compressed into the rubber, but they are actually a seporate part.
It changes the geometry by raising it up 1/8". Could be at least part of the issue. |
porschetub |
Jun 13 2020, 06:47 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,703 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Bumper top rubber SHOULD lap over the flange under the turn signal bucket. What year car? 75-76 you have to cut off lip off body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 100%,something odd ? is a delete "dog bone " mod needed here...just saying ?. |
mb911 |
Jun 13 2020, 07:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Bumper top rubber SHOULD lap over the flange under the turn signal bucket. What year car? 75-76 you have to cut off lip off body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 100%,something odd ? is a delete "dog bone " mod needed here...just saying ?. Its a 73 .. I did add the rubber washers. |
gereed75 |
Jun 13 2020, 07:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,249 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
The metal insert that goes into the dog bone hole is about 3/16 longer than the dog bone is thick. This extra length fits into the bolt through hole. If it is not positioned in the hole it will hold the bumper out at the top
Sounds obvious but you have to hold the weight of the bumper up while tightening bolts or they will bind, feeling tight but not really. I used bar clamps to hold the bumper up last time I did it |
mb911 |
Jun 14 2020, 05:56 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
The metal insert that goes into the dog bone hole is about 3/16 longer than the dog bone is thick. This extra length fits into the bolt through hole. If it is not positioned in the hole it will hold the bumper out at the top Sounds obvious but you have to hold the weight of the bumper up while tightening bolts or they will bind, feeling tight but not really. I used bar clamps to hold the bumper up last time I did it I actually always wondered why the metal inserts were even in there.. Thought they were kind of silly.. I will try that. Thanks.. |
gereed75 |
Jun 14 2020, 06:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,249 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
Hope that does it Ben. Might want to chase the captive nut threads (M8 x .8 IIRC) and apply a bit of anti seize.
Just changed my bumpers and several of the threads were bunged up. I think it is the unsupported weight of the hanging bumper while wrenching that does it. |
Olympic 914 |
Jun 14 2020, 09:17 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
Using allthread instead of the bolts makes the installation easier. Then if you like you can remove the allthread one at a time and replace the bolts. cutting a screwdriver slot in the end of the allthread helps when removing them.
My car had work done in the bumper mount area on both sides so I had to adjust the rubber dogbone thickness to get the fit right. |
mb911 |
Jun 14 2020, 10:18 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Using allthread instead of the bolts makes the installation easier. Then if you like you can remove the allthread one at a time and replace the bolts. cutting a screwdriver slot in the end of the allthread helps when removing them. My car had work done in the bumper mount area on both sides so I had to adjust the rubber dogbone thickness to get the fit right. Another good idea |
gereed75 |
Jun 14 2020, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,249 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 15,674 Region Association: North East States |
That might work. You could jam nut the all thread in against the captive nut to make a “removable stud”. Just leave it in there
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914e |
Jun 14 2020, 12:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 21-February 20 From: Arizona Member No.: 23,951 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Using allthread instead of the bolts makes the installation easier. Then if you like you can remove the allthread one at a time and replace the bolts. cutting a screwdriver slot in the end of the allthread helps when removing them. My car had work done in the bumper mount area on both sides so I had to adjust the rubber dogbone thickness to get the fit right. Where did you find the metric threaded rod? It is hard to find in the US. Most common allthread is grade 2, so I would definitely replace it with the bolts after you have it installed. |
Mark Henry |
Jun 14 2020, 01:06 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Do you have the rubber pads installed on the inner mounts?
Try taking them off. Hate to mention this but... steel can warp when being chromed, so check the curvature of the bumper. If they fit better without the rubber pad they are likely warped, in this case the curve would have flattened out a bit. |
Mark Henry |
Jun 14 2020, 01:56 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Another idea is to slot the bumper topper mounting holes, so you have more adjustment on the rubber topper.
I know it's a bit of a hack and looks like crap but once the topper is on you can't see it. How does just the bumper fit? What's the body lines like at the fenders? Too me it looks way out. Is it the bumper or the topper that's off? Or are they both off? |
sixnotfour |
Jun 14 2020, 02:37 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,433 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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Mark Henry |
Jun 14 2020, 03:03 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
If like above, it looks to me like the whole bumper is tilted forward at the top. You could cut the mounts and see if you can make them fit.
This is just one of the reasons why I abandoned the stainless steel bumper GB, final fitting. The Vietnam bumpers were not that far off but it took me 8+ hours to fit one front bumper. |
mepstein |
Jun 14 2020, 03:08 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,305 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Using allthread instead of the bolts makes the installation easier. Then if you like you can remove the allthread one at a time and replace the bolts. cutting a screwdriver slot in the end of the allthread helps when removing them. My car had work done in the bumper mount area on both sides so I had to adjust the rubber dogbone thickness to get the fit right. Where did you find the metric threaded rod? It is hard to find in the US. Most common allthread is grade 2, so I would definitely replace it with the bolts after you have it installed. Buy a metric threaded stud. Pretty common. |
bkrantz |
Jun 23 2020, 09:23 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,791 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
How many people shaved some thickness off the dog bones to bring the bumper closer?
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mb911 |
Jun 23 2020, 09:29 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,871 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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roblav1 |
Jun 23 2020, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I got lucky a couple weeks ago. Original bumper and top fit fine and took about 10 minutes to install.
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