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| bd1308 |
 Aug 18 2005, 09:43 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot  Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501  |
i plug in my dwell meter...
(-) goes to ground (+) goes to neg side of coil start car and look at meter numbers constantly changing....try to hold probe to give steady connection....nothing. i use the hold button to sample some numbers 112 42 23 and 1 (overflow) changed out the condensor, and points looked okay when i put them in (new) what gives? point gap .013 |
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| bondo |
Aug 18 2005, 09:49 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Get a pertronix and be done with it.
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| bd1308 |
Aug 18 2005, 10:02 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
last time i was told that i boutght one, but didnt fix my burning points issue, so my pertronix lasted maybe two weeks.
its not that easy... |
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| Dr. Roger |
Aug 18 2005, 10:09 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
burning points????
check voltage at pos coil terminal. when engine is warm voltage should be +/- 8V. any more and you'll cook your coil and points. fix: install ballast resistor. |
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| bondo |
Aug 18 2005, 10:11 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
You've got bigger problems then, and setting your dwell isn't going to fix them either. Do you have a 6 volt coil or something? |
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| Dr. Roger |
Aug 18 2005, 10:32 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
dude, your petronix replaces your points.. i must have missed something.....
Quote from another source..... Power to the coil and to the Pertronics are two different things. If using the original coil, then the ballast or resistance wire MUST remain to the COIL (and tachometer) but NOT the Pertronics unit. It requires a full 12 volts. The ballast or resistance wire is to protect the coil only. A separate wire of full voltage pulled from before the ballast or resistance wire should be routed to the electronic unit for proper functioning. It's a little confusing in the directions - but that's what they say. The Pertronics and Crane units pull almost no power themselves, but require full system voltage routed to them. Yes, I and many others have run the Pertronics directly from the + terminal of the coil on the Fords which have a resistance wire - but it is not recommended that way from the factory. The reason (they say) is that during high loads on the electrical system, the voltage may fall below the minimum required for the electronic unit to function, and the engine misfires, mysteriously quits or won't start. I have had this happen (almost) when driving at night and the charging system wasn't up-to-par due to a bad ground I later found. The engine started sputtering and missing when I accelerated from the last 2 stop signs to my house. It went from mildly missing to hardly running in about 1/2 mile. Fortunate I was so close to home. If I had a piece of wire I could have jumped directly to the battery to keep it going a while longer at full voltage. This is why the unit should be at full voltage in the first place. |
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| Dr. Roger |
Aug 18 2005, 10:38 AM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
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| bd1308 |
Aug 18 2005, 10:39 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
well this is a different engine.... old engine actually ran so lean(d-jet) that the plugs melted and fused the electrode to the side of the plug.... this engine ran fine for a while.... i cant get a dwell reading.... 6 volt coil?? i am pretty sure this is a 12 volt coil. i'll order a bosch blue today |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 18 2005, 01:45 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
wtf? this isnt that hard man.....
buy a pertronix.... 2 wire hookup. and it has a wide voltage range it can work on... how many ohms is your coil? 1.5? 3.0?? why are you still messing with points???? |
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| Joe Bob |
Aug 18 2005, 02:07 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
BTW...Petronixs doan like to have the ignition on w/o running the engine. Let's the magic smoke out.
What ever happened to the 3.6 conversion??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Aug 18 2005, 02:38 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
too many wires for him (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| rhodyguy |
Aug 18 2005, 03:48 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,090 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
does your dwell meter have a switch for 4/8 cyl and 6cyl? if so, is the switch set for 4/8?
k |
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| bd1308 |
Aug 18 2005, 05:35 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
yes its set for 4cyl...
i've done this before with good results... yes i'm still on points. today i'm forced to get rid of my good computer crap, so if you all want any of it, pm me. athlon 2600+ cpu + asus mobo. etc etc. at this point it runs good, points are backed out a bit...runs good. |
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| redshift |
Aug 18 2005, 05:44 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/hijacked.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Mike, have you crated my motor yet? M |
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| bd1308 |
Aug 18 2005, 05:49 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
as soon as i get one for $150 shipped, it will be in my car...
i have zilch money. |
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