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Museum car side mirror, ?? |
mtndawg |
Nov 13 2023, 06:26 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None |
Pic from the Stuttgart museum car. Is this mirror on other cars?
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wonkipop |
Nov 13 2023, 06:55 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
early 911 mirror.
piech's special car built up from a very early pre production proto. quite nice. but you wouldn't see much out of it. guess you didn't really need to, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
914sgofast2 |
Nov 13 2023, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
That mirror looks like the ones used on mid 1960's Alfa Romeo Duetto Spiders.
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SirAndy |
Nov 13 2023, 08:30 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
early 911 mirror. piech's special car built up from a very early pre production proto. quite nice. but you wouldn't see much out of it. guess you didn't really need to, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) One of the few 9eleben parts on a prototype 914 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
rgalla9146 |
Nov 13 2023, 09:27 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,569 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
early 911 mirror. piech's special car built up from a very early pre production proto. quite nice. but you wouldn't see much out of it. guess you didn't really need to, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) One of the few 9eleben parts on a prototype 914 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Prototype for sure. Filled seam fender to cowl. Sharp corner on windshield trim piece. Heavy grain on dash vinyl. |
fiacra |
Nov 13 2023, 10:28 PM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
Pic from the Stuttgart museum car. Is this mirror on other cars? I have early 911 mirrors (from a 1970?) on my 1975 1.8. I believe these were added by the original owner who had the car for 44 years. Clearly not put on by the factory, but they look great and the visibility is just as good as the stock mirrors on my other car. |
wonkipop |
Nov 13 2023, 11:14 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
early 911 mirror. piech's special car built up from a very early pre production proto. quite nice. but you wouldn't see much out of it. guess you didn't really need to, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) One of the few 9eleben parts on a prototype 914 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) you might know the answer to this one @SirAndy i've never seen the car in the metal. but my business partner took these shots for me on a trip to germany 15 or so years ago. i asked him to get some close in shots of the bumper. he didn't really get in close enough but.......... .....'cause it kind of looks like a production bumper but actually nothing like it really. at first you think its maybe just a kind of crude fit prototyping phase where the rubber top cap isn't quite a right fit. however i recall reading somewhere that the bumpers are actually spring mounted and can take a small impact. ie parking hit. sure explains things if that is the case. this photo from @JeffBowlsby 's website appears to indicate the top cap is entirely independent of the bumper and possibly fixed to the body through the back. and the bumper can move freely a small amount rearwards. sure is a neat detail if true. must have got dropped during productionizing bean counting? |
mtndawg |
Nov 14 2023, 12:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None |
I’m pretty sure that bumper top is fiberglass. You’re right, doesn’t appear to be attached to the bumper.
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mtndawg |
Nov 14 2023, 07:33 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None |
Pic from the Stuttgart museum car. Is this mirror on other cars? I have early 911 mirrors (from a 1970?) on my 1975 1.8. I believe these were added by the original owner who had the car for 44 years. Clearly not put on by the factory, but they look great and the visibility is just as good as the stock mirrors on my other car. Does that 911 mirror use the stock mount? |
DRPHIL914 |
Nov 14 2023, 07:47 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,768 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
early 911 mirror. piech's special car built up from a very early pre production proto. quite nice. but you wouldn't see much out of it. guess you didn't really need to, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) One of the few 9eleben parts on a prototype 914 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Prototype for sure. Filled seam fender to cowl. Sharp corner on windshield trim piece. Heavy grain on dash vinyl. very interesting , i noticed the dash grain but not the trim corner good eye! and the bumper top being different and not attached to the bumper itself. would love to see more |
mepstein |
Nov 14 2023, 09:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,315 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Almost everything about that car is different than stock. It has a 908 engine and trans. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Nov 14 2023, 10:00 AM
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fiacra |
Nov 14 2023, 10:24 AM
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Person.Woman.Man.Camera.TV Group: Members Posts: 345 Joined: 1-March 19 From: East Bay Region - California Member No.: 22,920 Region Association: Northern California |
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Does that 911 mirror use the stock mount? [/quote] @mtndawg I'm not sure. I didn't install them, they were already on the car when I got it. I have volumes of paperwork/receipts from the previous owner but nothing documented on the mirrors that I could find. Unlike the Stuttgart museum car they do sit in the stock location and the visibility is excellent. I think it is a tastefully done modification and looks great, but there is no particular advantage over stock mirrors in terms of visibility. Certainly no advantage in terms of cost as my understanding is these mirrors are expensive. When I have the doors apart at some point in the future I'll post pictures of how they are mounted. |
SirAndy |
Nov 14 2023, 10:28 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,679 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Almost everything about that car is different than stock. Fun fact, all the prototypes i have seen up close had parts that had the overall shape of 914 production parts but they are all different. None of the body panels would actually fit a production 914. And all the panels were hand-welded. The panels are custom, the trim is custom, the windows are custom, the rubber is custom, the interior is custom, everything is custom. And then they slapped on a few VW/911/356 parts on them for good measure. And the closer you look the more you realize that nothing is exactly the same as on a production 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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